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Posted on Tue, Jan 17, 2006 19:09

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HarleyGurl35 write:
I ride with my helmet 90% of the time. Seeme, I'm just the opposite as you. If I'm on the back...it's on all the time. After being in control of my bike, it's hard to trust someone else. But the times are few and far between that I find myself on the back anymore. A trust issue, I think.

Here is a follow up email from a guy on his wife. They were riding (her on back) and making a slight right curve in the road. They hit a spot of diesel gas in the road. They were going less than 20 mph.

This happened about a week ago, and he sends follow ups every couple of days on her. They are in their early 40's.
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Friends,

They had to do an emergency surgery to remove an disc in Donna's neck Sat.
morning.(between 6-7) The disc was ruptured and putting pressure on the spinal cord. I was against the added trauma, but Dr. Lo the head surgeon said he didn't want to risk it, and talked me and the family into it.

Donna's still not awake enough to know too much today. Still having bad headaches with the bruising of the brain. She did stand up and take a few steps today with the therapy people.

I'm trying to taper off the Vicadine and Soma for my ribs and shoulder. Makes me too "lala" to drive, and take care of Donna. Taking them only first thing in the morning and just before bed.

She is still to knocked out to have visitors, but ask every once and a while
if anyone from the group has checked lately. And I tell her yes they're waiting to come see you. It makes her feel good that ya'll are caring for her.

Enough rambling, gotta go back to the hospital shortly.

Thanks Greg & Donna
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I just got this from Greg this morning. Just wanted to pass it on. I know helmets don't always save lives, but it would have prevented most of all this. That's how Greg feels anyway. He was there, I wasn't.

I would be interested in finding out how a helmet could have prevented most of this, since it appears, from the information, that her neck was the problem. A helmet would have added weight to the head, and increased the momentum of the head as against the neck (possibly, severing the spinal cord).
Brain bruising could happen even with a helmet on, as the brain sort of floats around in the skull. When the skull makes a sudden stop (helmeted or not), the brain keeps going until it meets with something to stop it. (And of course, I am taking into consideration the impact absorbing qualities of helmets.)"
Disclaimer: This post is a generalization and is not to be taken as expert medical advice/treatise. Refer to a qualified medical provider for the full explanation, OR go to college and take courses in general, inorganic and organic chemistry, physiology, anatomy, biology, physics, yada yada yada (just like the rest of us).

Not a medical expert here by any means. All I know is he has said in other emails things wouldn't have been as bad for her if she had her helmet on.

I do know when the ex hit a car and we flew one way and the bike did a cartwheel in the other direction, my helmet had a big gash on the crown of it that would have been my scalp otherwise. It looks better than my ol'noggin would have looked if it had bounced. We walked away with only a deep cut on his shin. The leathers did wonders. They now look like hell, but that's ok with me.

I still have the helmet I keep as a reminder for myself. I'm not a diehard for helmets, just figure they do more good than bad. For me, anyway.

  


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Posted on Tue, Jan 17, 2006 03:17

Wai wait wait...
Ok..I understand your reasons but a I've a question for you: Why in the competition wear helmet?
Probably because it is essential for them!!!

The helmet when crasch, don't have to shatter!!!

There are helmets and helmets! You have to buy a fiber-composite helmet to be sure, and it must to be omologated!!!
They put before several tests to have the omologation! :-)
My helmet? I payed it 300$!!!

SEEME:
For the full helmet one solution is to leave the visor a little bit open for first time...so you have a little light air that help you... lol



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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2006 20:22

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I ride with my helmet 90% of the time. Seeme, I'm just the opposite as you. If I'm on the back...it's on all the time. After being in control of my bike, it's hard to trust someone else. But the times are few and far between that I find myself on the back anymore. A trust issue, I think.

Here is a follow up email from a guy on his wife. They were riding (her on back) and making a slight right curve in the road. They hit a spot of diesel gas in the road. They were going less than 20 mph.

This happened about a week ago, and he sends follow ups every couple of days on her. They are in their early 40's.
**********

Friends,

They had to do an emergency surgery to remove an disc in Donna's neck Sat.
morning.(between 6-7) The disc was ruptured and putting pressure on the spinal cord. I was against the added trauma, but Dr. Lo the head surgeon said he didn't want to risk it, and talked me and the family into it.

Donna's still not awake enough to know too much today. Still having bad headaches with the bruising of the brain. She did stand up and take a few steps today with the therapy people.

I'm trying to taper off the Vicadine and Soma for my ribs and shoulder. Makes me too "lala" to drive, and take care of Donna. Taking them only first thing in the morning and just before bed.

She is still to knocked out to have visitors, but ask every once and a while
if anyone from the group has checked lately. And I tell her yes they're waiting to come see you. It makes her feel good that ya'll are caring for her.

Enough rambling, gotta go back to the hospital shortly.

Thanks Greg & Donna
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I just got this from Greg this morning. Just wanted to pass it on. I know helmets don't always save lives, but it would have prevented most of all this. That's how Greg feels anyway. He was there, I wasn't.


i won't go on the back of a bike if i don't trust you---my ex road and i wouldn't get on his bike!!!!!! but would on others' bikes

ohhhhhhhhhh Chris where are you????



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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2006 20:21

smile2005 write:
Back in the 70's a good friend of mine died when he was out riding with friends & a woman in her car pulled out in front of him. He was wearing a helmet...he died at the scene of the accident due to swelling of his head inside his helmet...
WI doesn't have a helmet law. I prefer not to wear a helmet & in fact I don't even own one...yet. When I ride as a passenger with my best friend, he wants me to wear a full face helmet which I just hate because I feel like I can't breathe. I was thinking that I should probably purchase a helmet one day but I don't want a full face helmet. Any suggestions for someone who hates to wear a helmet?


i have 2 a 3/4 without a shield--DOT/Snell and a 1/2 DOT--i figure if i'm going to wear one it is going to be an approved one--i've seen the damage one of those skid helmets can do--have a friend--he went down the helmet cracked and the skull!!!! cracked with it



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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2006 14:57

Back in the 70's a good friend of mine died when he was out riding with friends & a woman in her car pulled out in front of him. He was wearing a helmet...he died at the scene of the accident due to swelling of his head inside his helmet...
WI doesn't have a helmet law. I prefer not to wear a helmet & in fact I don't even own one...yet. When I ride as a passenger with my best friend, he wants me to wear a full face helmet which I just hate because I feel like I can't breathe. I was thinking that I should probably purchase a helmet one day but I don't want a full face helmet. Any suggestions for someone who hates to wear a helmet?



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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2006 13:56

I ride with my helmet 90% of the time. Seeme, I'm just the opposite as you. If I'm on the back...it's on all the time. After being in control of my bike, it's hard to trust someone else. But the times are few and far between that I find myself on the back anymore. A trust issue, I think.

Here is a follow up email from a guy on his wife. They were riding (her on back) and making a slight right curve in the road. They hit a spot of diesel gas in the road. They were going less than 20 mph.

This happened about a week ago, and he sends follow ups every couple of days on her. They are in their early 40's.
**********

Friends,

They had to do an emergency surgery to remove an disc in Donna's neck Sat.
morning.(between 6-7) The disc was ruptured and putting pressure on the spinal cord. I was against the added trauma, but Dr. Lo the head surgeon said he didn't want to risk it, and talked me and the family into it.

Donna's still not awake enough to know too much today. Still having bad headaches with the bruising of the brain. She did stand up and take a few steps today with the therapy people.

I'm trying to taper off the Vicadine and Soma for my ribs and shoulder. Makes me too "lala" to drive, and take care of Donna. Taking them only first thing in the morning and just before bed.

She is still to knocked out to have visitors, but ask every once and a while
if anyone from the group has checked lately. And I tell her yes they're waiting to come see you. It makes her feel good that ya'll are caring for her.

Enough rambling, gotta go back to the hospital shortly.

Thanks Greg & Donna
***********

I just got this from Greg this morning. Just wanted to pass it on. I know helmets don't always save lives, but it would have prevented most of all this. That's how Greg feels anyway. He was there, I wasn't.

  


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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2006 10:14

Harleys1Angel write:
Good for you MrSbraz!! Some people are just like you here and some like to experience the "wind in their hair". It's a very free feeling. This is my personal take on the whole helmet thing, If it is law, then I will wear one. But if there is no law, I will not wear one. Why? Because I work on an ambulance. The people that I have seen that have worn a helmet usually are paralysed when in a bad motorcycle accident. The ones who don't wear a helmet are dead. I would rather be dead than paralysed. Because I am not afraid of dying - going to heaven you know! That's just my reason. I don't know about anyone else's reasons.


i basically agree with H1A

with this exception for me---i'm not experienced enough that i won't ride without a helmet on the front yet--i will and love to be on the back without one if i don't have to!!!! so the minute i'm in PA on the back it usually comes off--unless the front seat rider isn't comfortable with that--because i feel if they are in control of the bike i should abide by their rules!!!when on the bike that is!!!!!

  


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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2006 08:54

I don't usually wear a helmet, cause it makes me feel vulnerable and keeps me a little bit scared, which makes me be more careful and pay more attention which, I believe, keeps me alive.

I had a wreck a year ago that totaled my bike, and I believe I would be dead if I had worn a helmet, because I slid sideways into the offending left turn bluehair and impacted her car with my hip and shoulder, and the whiplash gave me a sore neck which I feel would've possibly broken (paralysis?) my neck. Just my personal belief.

I do wear a helmet, full leathers and body armor when I'm roadracing, or anytime I'm intentionally putting myself directly into harms' way!

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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2006 03:07

Ok...Angel, guys, I understand what you say...without helmet, is a freeride...but wait just a second...

I had a stupid incident two years ago...with the bike that you see in my photo, and if I'm writing now, and I can walk and run, I've to tks my helmet and my back protector!!!

i was unseat by my bike at only 30 miles per hour, bike let fly my from an elevation of about 2 or 3 meters, and I' fall to the ground, bang with my back head and my mid-beck!

Angel, if you works on ambulance...I don't know...what can I say...I've rescue many guys in my motorcyclest carrear...
Last one bang on a guard-rail...he was without the back protector...now he's paralized!!! :-(((



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Posted on Sun, Jan 15, 2006 12:03

Timely hearing for California helmet law

By KEVIN YAMAMURA
Sacramento Bee
15-JAN-06

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- "There's a particular irony in the current circumstance." _ Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, on Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's lack of a proper motorcycle license after he has opposed driver's licenses for undocumented immigrants.


Perhaps it was bad timing, but the annual bill allowing bikers to ride motorcycles without helmets was in committee two days after the most famous motorcycle accident in California gubernatorial history.

One would presume that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger walking around the Capitol with a fat lip isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for allowing motorcyclists to ride without helmets.

The bill was ultimately killed _ on the same Tuesday afternoon that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger sheepishly explained that he never bothered to get a motorcycle license.

Motorcycle riders wandering through Capitol hallways to lobby legislators took a moment to sympathize with the Harley-riding governor, even if he is on record as supporting the existing helmet law.

Wayne Phillips of Orinda, Calif., carried a helmet that bore a sticker noting, "I wear this helmet under protest." He said he hoped the governor's accident might push Schwarzenegger to support biker's rights in their ongoing struggle with motorists.

Joe Schwirian of Fremont, Calif., said he felt drivers ought to face harsher laws for careless actions on the road. He also noted that in "all of (Schwarzenegger's) movies, he's not wearing a helmet while he's going 120 miles per hour."

Of course, even if the repeal of the helmet law had passed, the governor wouldn't have been eligible: It only would have applied to those with a proper motorcycle license.



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Posted on Sun, Jan 15, 2006 08:35

i wear a helmut cuse i like my nugget just the way it is i have heard to many storys about ppl with minor injuries and a crushed skull i met a guy that while riding on the highway on a BMW his back tire came off his riding suite had holes worn though it and a flat spot all most worn though his helmut and he walked away with a bruise on his elbow

you can always carry a do not resuscitate card in your wallet



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Posted on Sun, Jan 15, 2006 07:07

Mick said "I am surprised that laws haven't been passed yet requiring everyone to wear helmets, gloves, rubber inflatable suits, and never do anything. hahahaha "
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Mick, too funny! sad, but true.

I wear a helmet myself and have seen it save lives.
H1Angel: I hear you on the paralyzed thing. Think I'd rather be dead than brain-dead.
Oh, wait, I'm that way anyway!
hehehe

DD

  


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Posted on Fri, Jan 13, 2006 22:31

Good for you MrSbraz!! Some people are just like you here and some like to experience the "wind in their hair". It's a very free feeling. This is my personal take on the whole helmet thing, If it is law, then I will wear one. But if there is no law, I will not wear one. Why? Because I work on an ambulance. The people that I have seen that have worn a helmet usually are paralysed when in a bad motorcycle accident. The ones who don't wear a helmet are dead. I would rather be dead than paralysed. Because I am not afraid of dying - going to heaven you know! That's just my reason. I don't know about anyone else's reasons.