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Posted on Sat, Dec 17, 2005 22:30

Personal history often creates in us addictive patterns of behavior and perception.
Personal attraction and mate selection is often unwillingly part of the patterns and images of history that thwart the promise one seeks.
One need hardly speak when it is realized that history hasn't been as golden as myth would have it and many have a battered past whose affects continue to last because be they for ill or well our bodies have adapted their sensory messengers to the familiarity of the pattern en countering thee and we find more attention given to familiarity than a strange uncertainty and often times though promise sits upon our very nose; we can not see it because we do not know it!
What is this crazy fool trying to say for all his battering words?
Only this --that though you seek the "promise" your guide is your "history" that doesn't know what your promise even looks or feels like. If you have not met your promise how can you know it?
Give yourself time to rest in the unfamiliar and explore the unusual relationship even if you must keep it at length just to brave its discovery for it may hold the key to the promise and not your history.
History has a powerful resonate affect that bathes one in familiarity but unless you truly have searched the depths of self and know what comforts thee and why...do not be so certain it is good for thee. Refined sugar is a sweet that gives the pancreas an early grief.

A young fool

  


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Posted on Sun, Feb 05, 2006 11:40

seeme1st write:
Better yet!!!!! i've been told that what we dislike in others is what we dislike in ourselves--it is alot easier to see because it rubs us the wrong way!!!!!!

Yes,
?Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.? Jung
?Knowing your own darkness is the best method for dealing with the darknesses of other people.? Jung
?Enlightenment is not imagining figures of light but making the darkness conscious.? Jung
?There is no coming to consciousness without pain.? Jung

So in many it is avoided. Natural birth is a painful experience as well but we enjoy the act of making and forget.
What I am saying though is that if we grow up trying to earn lets say a Father's Worth or a Mother's Love; we find ourselves in relationships where we are related to the same primal personage within the psyche. Trying to earn Love or Worth becomes what is experienced as Normal/Common Love. A soulmate is one we must earn Love from not one who loves us without condition because Love IS which is different from being achieved or obtained. Love IS requires no act by its very nature.
It becomes very difficult then to release those associates with Love and Seeme as Smile and you have posted..Know without a doubt that you are Worthy and Loveable as an entity/being and it is not something you must achieve and maintain but something that you are that you share with others through relatedness, through Love.

Excellent comment and thank you for the dialogue.
SSoul



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Posted on Sun, Feb 05, 2006 06:21

Better yet!!!!! i've been told that what we dislike in others is what we dislike in ourselves--it is alot easier to see because it rubs us the wrong way!!!!!!



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Posted on Fri, Feb 03, 2006 15:35

Considering that in the early stages of development your brain is considered most plastic(adaptive/learning) it is making new connections and associations because it has entered a new world. While it has tendencies and preferences unique to it own experience its relation to the world is being formed.
Your parents form your deepest belief and faith in God because as a child they acted as your god. You were completely dependent on them. The tension of that relationship sets up a foundation for your later experiencees in life.
The relationship to your parents as individuals also sets up patterns for later in life. We all as we have aged I think find that point where we finally see our parents as human beings not as the ideal archetypical image of parents that we tried to press them in to.
The tensions and relations to our parents whom at the time of childhood are the entire world set up foundational associations to the entire world both the inner world of self and the outer world of other.
The healthiness of these relationships is the success of how you can evolve from them and relate to yourself and the world in the totality of your potential as a human being what I called promise which might cause trouble for some as a word choice.
We have all heard the term 'soulmate' and many hold this as the ideal match.
However, if the soul is not ideally imaged within oneself the "soulmate' can only reflect the reality of our internal relationship.
The next time you observe another couple or a mate think of them as the physical embodiment of your Soul image.
What you see in them maybe what you feel about your self.
Anima-soul of man-feminine
Animus-soul of woman-masculine

Thank you Moon Raven for encouraging me to write further.



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Posted on Thu, Feb 02, 2006 17:57

All I can say is wow! What a great insight!



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Posted on Tue, Jan 17, 2006 10:00

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Cut write:
SS, Son you have my beliefs mixed up with someone else. I have no problem abusing a man that roughs up a woman. Castration with a dull knife would be even more fun.


Holy sheet man!
That's just frickin scary.

Colleen when did u start smellin like a rose??? LOL... cute name girly!!



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Posted on Tue, Jan 17, 2006 09:43

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SS, Son you have my beliefs mixed up with someone else. I have no problem abusing a man that roughs up a woman. Castration with a dull knife would be even more fun.

Holy sheet man!
That's just frickin scary.

  


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Posted on Tue, Jan 17, 2006 07:46

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Dirty,

I only write with my own words the way I write. If I quote something I let people know it. I don't worry or pay attention too much to grammar here. I consider it casual conversation. I do agree with JW that I could at least add some more commas along with Dynamal about writing where it is more important.
I write as I am so it reveals who I am and how fast and lengthy my thoughts are. It is better people know the complexity of my thoughts than me to pretend something I am not. Those who met me in Styo and who have known me on here almost a year know that is me. I am constantly questing, thinking and wondering.
Peace

As for Cut, I just think its immature to keep trying to pick a fight. If he doesn't believe in abuse why does he practice it?

Thank you... We truly do not judge anyone... I have to say that your posts are thought provoking and you have had great messages in the past. I too am a deep thinker. I like it much better when you address us more directly like you did in this post. Thanks and Peace right back atchya!!!



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Posted on Tue, Jan 17, 2006 06:36

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Cut write:
SS, Son you have my beliefs mixed up with someone else. I have no problem abusing a man that roughs up a woman. Castration with a dull knife would be even more fun.



Hahaha Cut..... How's this?

A West Texas Cowboy's wife came home
just in time to find her husband in bed
with another woman. With super-human strength, borne of fury, and cutting calves, she dragged him down the stairs, out the back door, and into
the tool shed out back of the barn.

She put his tally-whacker in a vice and then secured it tightly and removed the handle. Next she picked up an old carrpenter's saw. The banged up Cowboy was terrified, and hollered, "Stop! Stop! You're not gonna cut it off with that rusty damn saw, are you?"

The wife, with a gleam of revenge in her eye, put the saw in her husband's hand and said, "Nope. I'm gonna set this old shed on fire, and go to town for a cold beer. You do whatever you want."


HA! that's funny as hell!



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Posted on Tue, Jan 17, 2006 05:43

Cut write:
SS, Son you have my beliefs mixed up with someone else. I have no problem abusing a man that roughs up a woman. Castration with a dull knife would be even more fun.


Hahaha Cut..... How's this?

A West Texas Cowboy's wife came home
just in time to find her husband in bed
with another woman. With super-human strength, borne of fury, and cutting calves, she dragged him down the stairs, out the back door, and into
the tool shed out back of the barn.

She put his tally-whacker in a vice and then secured it tightly and removed the handle. Next she picked up an old carrpenter's saw. The banged up Cowboy was terrified, and hollered, "Stop! Stop! You're not gonna cut it off with that rusty damn saw, are you?"

The wife, with a gleam of revenge in her eye, put the saw in her husband's hand and said, "Nope. I'm gonna set this old shed on fire, and go to town for a cold beer. You do whatever you want."

  


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Posted on Tue, Jan 17, 2006 04:30

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SS, Son you have my beliefs mixed up with someone else. I have no problem abusing a man that roughs up a woman. Castration with a dull knife would be even more fun.

Now Cut that is sooo IMATURE....LMAO!!



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Posted on Tue, Jan 17, 2006 00:44

SS, Son you have my beliefs mixed up with someone else. I have no problem abusing a man that roughs up a woman. Castration with a dull knife would be even more fun.

  


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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2006 21:10

Yes Agreed Softail and LowRyder!



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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2006 12:50

Lowrider Thanks for straightening me out, thats good to hear

  


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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2006 10:06

softail1999 write:
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Cut write:
Lowryder--if you were in court "again" as you say and it was for abuse of a woman---then you have good reason to----"Hope me or the vocal few who have the balls to speak up-- weren
t the jurors"



Maybe my point was missed . Was just stating, since none were there to see or really know what happened, that many started judging one . I dont hold with Abuse either, either male or female. I have had a woman hit on me once, I walked away didnt hit back. So hope not to be included in any abuser class. Thx

The truth is with the two parties involved... So why not leave it with them and move on here...
I respect both of them and accept them as they are... And will welcome both as friends..
Who are we to judge the lives/experiences of others... If that were the case, Im sure I would be the target of many on here... I have had my past ruin many relationships in my life, because of the official (permanent) version of my past.. Was that the truth??? Only I and the other party know!!!....

Lets leave it here and move on.....
Private relationships are that.. Private.. Lets keep em that way....

Amen Softie...

  


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Posted on Mon, Jan 16, 2006 06:55

Dirty,

I only write with my own words the way I write. If I quote something I let people know it. I don't worry or pay attention too much to grammar here. I consider it casual conversation. I do agree with JW that I could at least add some more commas along with Dynamal about writing where it is more important.
I write as I am so it reveals who I am and how fast and lengthy my thoughts are. It is better people know the complexity of my thoughts than me to pretend something I am not. Those who met me in Styo and who have known me on here almost a year know that is me. I am constantly questing, thinking and wondering.
Peace

As for Cut, I just think its immature to keep trying to pick a fight. If he doesn't believe in abuse why does he practice it?



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Posted on Sun, Jan 15, 2006 16:56

LowRyder write:
Cut write:


Maybe my point was missed . Was just stating, since none were there to see or really know what happened, that many started judging one . I dont hold with Abuse either, either male or female. I have had a woman hit on me once, I walked away didnt hit back. So hope not to be included in any abuser class. Thx

LowRyder,
It is easy for Cut to miss your point. He has a lot of growing up to do. He is quick to jump and judge others and hasn't yet learned objectivity as long as he is busy pointing his fingers away from himself; he is happy.
I agree with you that it would be desirable to have more maturity and wisdom on any jury.
The funny thing is though he must not look very biker-ish because then he would know the feeling of being judged on appearances alone and how foolish people are that judge the depth or character of a pond by its surface.
Such are lessons though that take age and experience to root themselves in the personality and its character.
Abuse from any s e x is wrong.



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Posted on Sun, Jan 15, 2006 14:28

LowRyder write:
Cut write:
Lowryder--if you were in court "again" as you say and it was for abuse of a woman---then you have good reason to----"Hope me or the vocal few who have the balls to speak up-- weren
t the jurors"



Maybe my point was missed . Was just stating, since none were there to see or really know what happened, that many started judging one . I dont hold with Abuse either, either male or female. I have had a woman hit on me once, I walked away didnt hit back. So hope not to be included in any abuser class. Thx

The truth is with the two parties involved... So why not leave it with them and move on here...
I respect both of them and accept them as they are... And will welcome both as friends..
Who are we to judge the lives/experiences of others... If that were the case, Im sure I would be the target of many on here... I have had my past ruin many relationships in my life, because of the official (permanent) version of my past.. Was that the truth??? Only I and the other party know!!!....

Lets leave it here and move on.....
Private relationships are that.. Private.. Lets keep em that way....

  


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Posted on Fri, Jan 13, 2006 08:57

Cut write:
Lowryder--if you were in court "again" as you say and it was for abuse of a woman---then you have good reason to----"Hope me or the vocal few who have the balls to speak up-- weren
t the jurors"



Maybe my point was missed . Was just stating, since none were there to see or really know what happened, that many started judging one . I dont hold with Abuse either, either male or female. I have had a woman hit on me once, I walked away didnt hit back. So hope not to be included in any abuser class. Thx



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Posted on Thu, Jan 12, 2006 17:18

Ok, here is our 2cents; History is what has happened. History exists without judgement or influence. It is simply what has happened.
Experience, however, is the bitter mote that teaches us what to, and not to, do in our next relationship, job, or whatever.
The only way to truely grow as a human is to marry history with experience and try really hard not to "F" it up again.
It is the rare person who can admit the hurt or harm he/she has caused in the past.
Promise is what fools do in the still of the night, in the wake of the carnage that their mistakes have caused.
Resolve is what aware people do as they consider their mistakes.

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