yeah Jack.. Thats always been about my favorite too. When HD first came out with the nose cone motor in my mind I was sure they would go back to the generator in just a couple years. You couldn't fix an alternator beside the road. Same when they came out with the evo and the rear belt. They were all good improvements but I sell hard on changes to the old harley.
old school to me means you had a friend custom make or modify somthing for you or vice versa. custom meant you built it to fit your needs not to fit popular trends or didnt mean you baught it and bolted it on (or someone els bolted it on for you) Thats aftermarket. Old school is trusting your ride to your own or your friends (only cause your still learnin from him) mechanical abilities, not the stealership or a support vehicle. Is dressin for the weather not to impress the "spectators". To me old school is doin it yourself and damn proud of it when it does what you wanted it to. To me OLD SCHOOL is the child of necesity and individuial thinking so that means that even todays young riders can be old school. Im not knocking the riders that can afford to have a bike built for them but there isnt the feeling of knowing that the way you did somthing is because of your own abilities or of your friends not just in their bikes but in the bonding of friendships in the durres of trying to get things done.....just so you can ride.
I learned to ride on a kickstart ironhead sportster with the understanding that "if you can't start it, you don't need to ride it". If it broke down, you didn't look for your "support vehicle" and I sure as hell didn't have a cel phone. I actually had to know what was going on with my scoot, get my hands dirty, and fix it. When I went for a ride it was on the bike, not watching the bike "ride" on a trailer. Im not saying I'm "old skool", but things sure aren't the same now.
I don't know what a lot of people think of when they hear or use the term "ole skool" but to me it was people like my father and others who rode and taught me what I know. They built their bikes, they rode, they loved, they respected each other, they repected each other's bike and were loyal to a fault. To them it was not a word but a lifestyle doing what they loved the most riding, living and talking bikes. They raised their families to be the same. It is an attitude, that certain swagger, the gleam in their eye when looking at other bikes. The joy in their hearts when on the open road. The satisfaction in knowing that they did it their way.
Once again I ramble on but I don't think it can really be defined although I tried.
I have ridden with and worked with some of the best of the old school riders. I was in the service when the judge would ask you if you would like him to pass sentence or would you join the service. A lot of them joined up and no one gave us hell for our short hair or what we did it was all in that we rode and had the same values.
OOO I love it...
Yes..tp (and not toilet paper) I know what you mean...got refused a couple times when stopping to eat. But then further down the road someone would welcome us w/open arms and we'd forget about the closed minded asses we just encountered.
I am a RN and I worked in surgery so therefore I changed from my street clothes to scrubs to work....I only had my 'biker clothes'..I mean afterall it was my life. I actually got called in by administration and told that I could not wear my clothes to work. BWHAHA..They gave all kinds of shitass lame reasons...I flat out told them NO..They went so far as to threaten me w/dismissal...bwhahahaha, yeah right. Told 'em go right ahead assholes, lose your top surgical nurse and walked out. I ended up working 22 years for that hospital. (and still wore my 'biker' clothes to work each day.
I have also recognized patients that I had who loved me in my scrubs. When in my 'biker' clothes they snubbed their noses up. Fuck 'em.
I can only tell you what "old school" means to me. Perhaps it has changed over the years a bit. Bikers are more accepted now. 25 years ago bikers were looked upon as renegades... outlaws, feared by most of the public. Old school (then) didn't wear leather. I remember denim vests with patches. Old school didn't wear helmets. Bikes were built from the frames up and all that I remember you had to kick start. Old school bikers had favorite biker bars where they went to play pool, play darts, drink beer. Old school lived to ride and rode to live. Tattoo's of skull and crossbones covered their arms, or homemade tats that said "born 13 dead." My Brother was a Hells Angel. I have partied at the H.A. club house in Fontana with greasy George, J.C., Dirty Bob, just to name a few.... and I was treated with respect. No one cursed in front of me or my Mom. There was great respect for each other, their bikes, each others bikes. They watched each others backs. They watched over and protected family. They scared off most of my boyfriends, lol. Like I said, it was a lifestyle and that to me is what I think of when I hear "old school." I am sure everyone has their own opinion though.
77shovel; Something about the old bikes. My ex had both a shovel and a panhead and we rode the panhead most of the time. He would kick start all the time and like you said two, three times, but, once that baby got going it sure had balls! I loved it! I once rode the back of an old hardtail rigid. It was the longest 45 minutes of my life! This guy was definately old school, a Viet Nam Vet and one hell of a nice guy! I chalk it up to having "back seat" experiences and just another one for the book. I do look forward to turning pages!
I still ride with some Old skool rider buddies, we're a little older, with wrinkles and scars covered with tats. We've replaced the old kick start bikes with electric ones
that don't puke spark plugs every ten miles.
I still wear my old denim vest
with patches of long ago conquest and brothers we've lost.
I don't trailer my bike unless it's broke, and I've never passed a rider who was parked on the side of the road.
Yes, I would say thats old skool, but then what do I know? I'm still young at heart.
to me "old skool" is what our bikes looked like when it wasn't popular to look like that, or have a bike(Harley) like ours! I ride a dresser now because I have to, I like it dont get me wrong! A big thumbs up to all the bros & sis that really earned the right to be called "old skool"! I remember the day when you went into a restaurant if you were"old skool" either there were no tables, or you set in the back!! know what I mean?
OldSchool. To me oldschoolis riding just to ride. Not to try an impress others with your 30k bike that you have no idea evan how to change the oil on. Old school is NOT having to attend every rally just because everyone says it the place to be. Old school is earning respect not expecting it. Old school is being true to friends,family ,an most of all your self.
At the risk of having to explain myself which I do not like to do anyway..In response to 77shovel's comment I didn't NEED it explained to me. I know what old skool is to me. It's that I have heard so many people use it in different contexts. Just thought I'd start a topic on it and see what came up...