lowryder-------its driving me crazy----are you standing in front of a sign that is showing up on the sides of you head, or do you have a hat on....you pic is small on my computer and i can't tell.........and thanks for what you said....
locol-chessire---i read what you wrote, and you did make me realize maybe i was talking it alittle to much on a personal level to see the whole picture....and if i did offend anyone, especially you sailor, that was not my intention in any form....you are right that it is the individual-not the establishment who is responible for the events in their life, and you are 100 percent right on how enlisted are treated compared to the officers-shit rolls down hill, and the guys pay a big price, and yes chessie your right-i do remember alot of crap rick went through....i guess i get narrow minded when i think someone disses (sp) vets.....hell, i knew thinking wasn't good for me....lol....and fear not my hormone patch gets replaced today......once again all, thanks for the insight and a look at different views, and again if i offended anyone-for that i am sorry- but i still do feel like i want to smack the shit out of people who put these guys/girls down......i hear my hormones calling.........
a lot of it is just in fun
in the army downsizing is practiced with a vengance
"i have been doing more with less for so long... now the army expects me to do everything with nothing"
(somthing i used to say alot in the 80s)
we know you meant no offence, and im sure all us vets have the upmost respect for those who serve/served and have given.... everything (litteraly). Please understand that through our experiences both good and bad, that what they complain about is usually of their own experience. I have gained many things from the military but I have lost about as much and maby even more, and my experience with the military was all good. Our complaints of the military are usually mis ditrected to the service as a whole when it should be directed to the true cause of our complaints. Some can never really define what it was so it had to be the military as a whole, some just wish to blame the whole establishment.
Again "I'm ok the whole military is screwed up"
and for Tp196 and Ladyvulcan
"The mind is a terible thing"
old sailor----i know this has nothing to do with anything of great importance, but my old man and son were both in the navy, and i know and knew alot of really good people....why the hell are you so pissed off about the navy, your out now so forget it, but NEVER forget the ones that didn't get that chance to get out...granted the navy took my husbands life, and i guess i just have a hard time when people dis people who are willing to facking die so we can have some of the things in this life we consider precious.....if we agree or not with the military and its actions, all vets-alive or dead- deserve our utmost respect....dont mean to piss anyone off, but i guess i feel like i'm fighting for the ones who cant fight for themselves anymore.........