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Posted on Wed, Aug 02, 2006 11:35

I've recently had a talk with my daughter (who is almost 10) on this very topic. Complete honesty is in itself a lie. I don't think it is possible to be completely honest and still be able to communicate effectively with those around you. There is a difference between bending and breaking the truth and that is a difficult line to draw and we don't always agree on where it should be drawn.

I had a female roommate years ago (just a friend) that was a bit overweight and quite self concious about it. One afternoon I was talking to a couple of other female friends (my friends are not ALL female even though it my appear so in this post) when my roommate walked in wearing a very tight and short mini skirt with a floral print. She asked if it looked okay and both of my female friends said "yes". I, on the other hand, using all the tact and finesse or a 700 pound silverback gorilla, told her the truth. Why? In my opinion it would be a major injustice to allow a woman with a low self image to walk out of the house wearing something that made her look like a sac of potatoes wrapped in spandex. Was their choice to lie wrong? Probably not. Had I not cared about my roommate, I most likely would have opted not to be as honest.

I told my daughter that she needed to be honest and truthful, but there were times in which "white lies" were appropriate. If grandma has spent 30 minutes working on her hair and she's done the best she can, then tell her it looks good regardless of your true opinion.

On the contrary, if someone asks you out on Friday night and you don't want to go, tell them so. There are few things in life I dislike more than to make plans with someone only to have them back out at the last minute when they knew ALL ALONG they didn't want to go.

"I love you, the check is in the mail", and the third one with which we are all familiar are not acceptable... but what do I know? I can't maintain a relationship with the woman tied up in my basement.



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Posted on Wed, Aug 02, 2006 07:15

Well I do know some on here have not been honest in there profiles or in person. Will not say any names. But they lead you on and then tear you down once they got you hooked. but will say is not all their fault its mine also.



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Posted on Wed, Jul 26, 2006 21:24

Unfortunatley for many Honesty has just become a word in the dictionary!



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Posted on Mon, Jul 24, 2006 12:23

jennyd write:
i don't believe people are honest especiallly when it comes to the internet.Men and women will both lie! mostly its the men that will lie.They say they are single,but really they have a wife or a girlfriend.(am i right?) so how do you know who is lieing? i guess well never know!!!!

Such a trusting soul. I really wish you the best? lol Is that a lie?



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Posted on Sat, Jul 22, 2006 15:44

I don't usually name names but this time I will because a certain person on this site that calls himself "the crazy canadian" proclaims to be an honest person but is anything but. He won't allow you to ask him a question or he gets very mad at you and looking at his profile he keeps changing so as to appear as he is currently telling his victims. So watch out ladies!!!!!!!!! He'll request and hound for naked pictures then tell you how he can't stand receiving them. I'm looking for someone to accept his birthday present of Kama Ssustra..any takers?



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Posted on Sat, Jul 22, 2006 11:15

How can a lesson be learned if you don't have any idea what is wrong? It seems that many out there demand to be treated in a way that they will never consider treating someone in return and then they cry...YOU ARE TOO MUCH WORK!!!!!!!



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Posted on Fri, Jul 21, 2006 20:54

i don't believe people are honest especiallly when it comes to the internet.Men and women will both lie! mostly its the men that will lie.They say they are single,but really they have a wife or a girlfriend.(am i right?) so how do you know who is lieing? i guess well never know!!!!



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Posted on Fri, May 26, 2006 08:50

DirtyBikers4Eva write:
mrbadboy write:
i ve got it , so am going to tell my cat , i like her ,

Does the word PROZAC mean anything to you??

Is that a pic of a woman?



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Posted on Fri, May 26, 2006 08:48

IndoorVoice write:
Lemme bed ya ear for a quick second, I know its happened to several folks..Me as well... Ya start with a ewink, move to emails, maybe 3 to 5 a day, then ya proceed to messenger for a lil over a week, then ya do the call thing for and you talk several times a day,,EVERYTHING is GREAT !...The day comes where ya meet for lunch...the luncheon was super fun, great company and great food...
Several days pass and you still havent heard from her/him...
What in gods name went wrong ?...And if something went wrong or there wasnt a connection.. Why cant they openly admit it ?...

Why and so what. It isn't like you were together for any time. OK here is what happened. THEY DIDN"T LIKE YOU. SO WHAT??



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Posted on Thu, May 25, 2006 22:48

mrbadboy write:
i ve got it , so am going to tell my cat , i like her ,

Does the word PROZAC mean anything to you??

  


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Posted on Thu, May 25, 2006 09:08

I just got this and thought i'd share..

A COWBOY?S GUIDE TO LIFE

Before you saddle up and move out...


Don?t squat with your spurs on.

Don?t interfere with something that ain?t botherin? you none.

Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.

The easiest way to eat crow is while it?s still warm. The colder it gets, the harder it is to swaller.

If you find yourself in a whole, the first thing to do is stop diggin?.

If it don?t seem like it?s worth the effort, it probably ain?t.

It don?t take a genius to spot a goat in a flock of sheep.

The biggest troublemaker you?ll probably ever have to deal with watches you shave his face in the mirror every morning.

Never ask a barber if you need a haircut.

If you get to thinkin? you?re a person of some influence, try orderin? somebody else?s dog around.

Don?t worry about bitin? off more?n you can chew; your mouth is probably a whole lot bigger?n you think.

Always drink upstream from the herd.

Generally, you ain?t learnin? nothing when your mouth?s a-jawin?.

Tellin? a man to get lost and makin? him do it are two entirely different propositions.

If you?re ridin? ahead of the herd, take a look back every now and then tomake sure it?s still there with ya.

Good judgement comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgement.

When you give a person a lesson in meanness to a critter or to a person, don?t be surprised if they learn their lesson.

When you?re thowin? your weight around, be ready to have it thrown around by somebody else.

Lettin? the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier than puttin? it back.

Alway take a good look at what you?re about to eat. It?s not so important to know what it is, but it?s sure crucial to know what it was.



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Posted on Thu, May 25, 2006 08:25

I say fuck it and let it go. Their loss.



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Posted on Thu, May 25, 2006 00:16

I am puzzled by jennyd's post. First she says that she is loved for being the way she is, then goes on to comment about letting go. The comment about being overprotective, sounded like she was quite jealous, but did not want to admit it. I find this thought somewhat ironic, considering the title of this thread. If this is the case, then I offer a quote from Shakespear,in lieu of advise "To thine own self be true."



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Posted on Wed, Apr 26, 2006 10:22

longnailsblonde write:
Jennyd
I have been in the same situation here is my thought:
People come into your life for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. Sometimes they die. Sometimes they walk away. Sometimes they act up and force you to take a stand. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

Some people come into your life for a SEASON, because your turn has come to share, grow or learn. They bring you an experience of peace or make you laugh. They may teach you something you have never done. They usually give you an unbelievable amount of joy. Believe it, it is real. But only for a season.!

LIFETIME relationships teach you lifetime lessons, things you must build upon in order to have a solid emotional foundation. Your job is to accept the lesson, love the person and put what you have learned to use in all other relationships and areas of your life. It is said that love is blind but friendship is clairvoyant.

Thank you for being a part of my life, whether you were a reason, a season or a lifetime

A VERY VERY healthy outlook!!



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Posted on Wed, Apr 26, 2006 10:20

mick2003 write:
jennyd write:
i don't believe men or women are honest anymore especially when it comes to the internet.i recently found this out!! it's cool i guess . i should just be greatful he still loves me for the crazy lady i am! it's hard to know when its time to let go i believe when you love somebody you should never have secrets even if a "friend" is so many miles away......but when i love someone i love with all my heart and soul.i have been hurt by lies and deception my whole life so its no wander why i treat men the way i do.I'm overprotective!!!!i just feel if you say you love somebody and your totally committed to that person and in your heart you mean it then why do you need someone elses . shouldn't that person be enough for you??? if i am wrong please anyone out there please let me know. .i'm almost ready to give up on love. i might not have a beautiful face but i have a very beautiful heart!


I don't get what you are saying here. You said you should be grateful he still loves you for the crazy lady you are, and then something about letting go, and ????
So you have someone who loves you, but you apparently don't love him? And you are still looking?
Am I in La La land or what in regard to this?

We must have been on the same bus Mick cause it makes no sense to us either...



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Posted on Wed, Apr 26, 2006 10:15

IndoorVoice write:
Lemme bed ya ear for a quick second, I know its happened to several folks..Me as well... Ya start with a ewink, move to emails, maybe 3 to 5 a day, then ya proceed to messenger for a lil over a week, then ya do the call thing for and you talk several times a day,,EVERYTHING is GREAT !...The day comes where ya meet for lunch...the luncheon was super fun, great company and great food...
Several days pass and you still havent heard from her/him...
What in gods name went wrong ?...And if something went wrong or there wasnt a connection.. Why cant they openly admit it ?...

Obviously he wasn't interested. He expects you to understand without him having to tell you straight to your face. All you ladies keep saying you want a nice man well now there you have him!! He's being nice by not being blunt! Just move on and meet someone new, not everyone will like you and you as well will not like everyone.



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Posted on Sun, Apr 16, 2006 14:47

it sucks, i know-sometimes we do it out of anger for something you
ve done-which is totally wrong-but usually lesson is learned and things get better with alittle time-thats only if you feel its worth it-peace out

  


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Posted on Sun, Apr 16, 2006 02:25

Wrench_Whore write:
baddawg write: I guess with most of us pilgrims (being biker guys), its tougher to be in touch with emotions and establishing relationships.

Most?
I am compelled to disagree...

CW,

Now, that is funny!!

hehehe



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Posted on Sat, Apr 15, 2006 12:26

baddawg write: I guess with most of us pilgrims (being biker guys), its tougher to be in touch with emotions and establishing relationships.

Most?
I am compelled to disagree...

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Posted on Fri, Apr 14, 2006 18:41

stillme67 write:
that's pretty sad and pathetic and i hope you didn't get your feelings hurt too bad. but i wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. would you really have wanted a relationship with someone like that? i know i wouldn't. and better to find out sooner than later. as far as why someone would be that lame and not just be honest with you, who knows? people shock and amaze me everyday and it's not in a good way. but i shuffle through the crowds of idiots to try and find those special people that i will some day call friends. i'm sure you will find your people too.

the sooner the better is so true otherwise you just spend yer time looking back and thinking why did it it take me so bloody long to see this for what it isit is lol



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