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Posted on Tue, Jul 05, 2005 01:00


DakotaBlu write:
HarleyDragon, you took the words right outta my mouth... ladies, if you aren't somebody's ol lady you are viewed as a potential pass around... and if you're a pass around, you'll NEVER be a brother's ol lady... when they're done with ya they'll trade ya for a pack of cigarettes.. I've seen it happen more than once... my ol man lived and died a 1%er... he was killed while on "club business".. the initial question here was "are you uneasy around patches?".. my answer is absolutely not... the ol man's brothers were, are and always will be family... I love them all, but I am only TOO aware of what my "family" is capable of...


PERFECT EXPLAINATION! ....I'VE SEEN WOMEN TOTALLY DESTROYED BY THIS....I JUST HATE TO SEE WOMEN SO NIEVE TO WHAT CAN REALLY HAPPEN BECAUSE OF A LITTLE KINDNESS....AWARENESS IS KEY...I WOULD ALSO LIKE YOU TO KNOW I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS!

  


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Posted on Tue, Jul 05, 2005 00:32


leggybrunette write:

Ukin write:

harleydragon write:
it's a gamble and you know they say never gamble with what you are not prepared to lose.I think the odds are stacked against you



I play Poker...and I know when to bet and when to fold...I don't like odds stacked against me.
Been invited to "Church" this Friday..decision time is looming HD.

Ukin, It is obvious that you are stuggling with a very difficult choice..A friend of mine once told me that "In times of indecision...don't decide"....that really stands out in my mind in your situation & thought I'd share it...All the best to ya hon...


LEGGYBRUNNETTE........ I AGREE...I WAS ALWAYS TOLD WHEN IN DOUBT "DON'T"

  


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Posted on Sat, Jul 02, 2005 12:27

"....but, most likely, we would die defending each other"

truer words never spoken...
respect & regards...
Blu



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Posted on Sat, Jul 02, 2005 09:17

I wasn't gonna post on this subject, cuz I don't know how other clubs treat people (women especially). But, ya had to mention that book written by that worm Billy. It's a good book if ya read it as a fiction novel, but his role in the MONGOLS wasn't anywhere near the stories he wrote. He had to justify getting paid to have fun. How could anyone believe the words of a snitch? Whether he was a cop or a biker, it still all boils down to him being a very untrustworthy person. We have Commandments that we live by. We have a brotherhood like I have never seen anywhere before, not even in Vietnam (2 years)1st Air Cavalry Division, HOO-AH!! We try to keep civilians away from any Club business(Laughlin was uncalled 4). If you see a property patch on one of our ol' ladies, you can bet she's wearin it cuz she's proud of the man she's with, not to signal her ownership by him. we don't need to own anybody, when we throw a party, LA's finest women show up, and they're treated like ladies. Yeah, we'll get one of our brothers a drink first, but, most likely, we would die defending each other, so who would YOU value most? Our Brotherhood started for the purpose of riding and wearing whatever we wanted, without some other club telling us we couldn't. One of our Laws is to never use your patch for personal gain. Maybe, my club is different than the rest, but we're at peace with all but one, and the world is looking at us right now, and I think the informed are looking with a favorable opinion.
Thanks for letting me share.....

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Posted on Fri, Jul 01, 2005 20:46

I feel at ease when a group with colors or patches is around. Heck I wear em myself. In my area we have several clubs representing all types of riders. I mostly know them all and have shared several events with some. In my life I had only one problem with a misguided group who thought the table I was eating at was gonna be thiers cause they wanted it. We worked it out like men,they crouded my space and I let them see what was under my jacket, I never even had to speak a word, and they decided two tables in the back looked much better. ANd I went back to my lunch.
The ones I fear more is the group of punks that are out as a group just to raise havic.
Chkn



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Posted on Thu, Jun 23, 2005 18:14

Gruff ... miss me?????? how you been darlin?



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Posted on Thu, Jun 23, 2005 18:10

My opinion on patches, if anyones gives a sh)*&& .... I'd rather hang out in the club houses than the biker bars. At least you know who your friends are and the drinks are cheaper, and hell, you never have to drive home. Your brothers and sisters got your back. Leave your wallet on the bar and no one will touch it. All these yuppie weekenders ... wuz the world coming to?



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Posted on Wed, Jun 01, 2005 03:24


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Ukin understands the error in his ways...now. I kinda feel sorry for the guy. To reach his age and not have a clue...on how to conduct himself.

The other part of your post was great and to the point. The only thing I can add, is a there a lot of outside help from the local, state and Federal police and investagtive departments. That do their best to keep motorcycle clubs...from getting along (for lack of stronger words).

The same tactics where used againest the civil rights movement, Vietnam war protesters, the white power groups, the various prison gangs and even the tree huggers (remember the big bad cop holding the girls eyes open and spraying mace into them...because they had chained themselfs to some desk in a governmat office)

There is a new book out by the ATF or DEA agent that was a officer in one of the motorcycle clubs in California. This book futher proves my point.

So it is no wonder that things keep going on as usual. You have people that are getting paid serious money and have exciting jobs...playing supercops. That have a vested interest in keeping the old wounds open and creating new ones.



I would be interested in that book if you have any info on it..thanks ( and before any of my friends have a chance to commit on this..yes , I have someone available to read it to me )


Don't pist your boy off and make him leave Grandpa.

  


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Posted on Tue, May 31, 2005 18:51

Just got done reading it...very interesting and chilling....called "Under and Alone" by William Queen



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Posted on Tue, May 31, 2005 13:03


harleydragon write:

redwoodchoppers write:
Ukin understands the error in his ways...now. I kinda feel sorry for the guy. To reach his age and not have a clue...on how to conduct himself.

The other part of your post was great and to the point. The only thing I can add, is a there a lot of outside help from the local, state and Federal police and investagtive departments. That do their best to keep motorcycle clubs...from getting along (for lack of stronger words).

The same tactics where used againest the civil rights movement, Vietnam war protesters, the white power groups, the various prison gangs and even the tree huggers (remember the big bad cop holding the girls eyes open and spraying mace into them...because they had chained themselfs to some desk in a governmat office)

There is a new book out by the ATF or DEA agent that was a officer in one of the motorcycle clubs in California. This book futher proves my point.

So it is no wonder that things keep going on as usual. You have people that are getting paid serious money and have exciting jobs...playing supercops. That have a vested interest in keeping the old wounds open and creating new ones.



I would be interested in that book if you have any info on it..thanks



Its called Under and Alone: by Willam Queen, who was an ATF Agent who became a full patched member of the Mongols. Its a really good book, i just got done reading it.



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Posted on Tue, May 31, 2005 12:27

Ukin understands the error in his ways...now. I kinda feel sorry for the guy. To reach his age and not have a clue...on how to conduct himself.

The other part of your post was great and to the point. The only thing I can add, is a there a lot of outside help from the local, state and Federal police and investagtive departments. That do their best to keep motorcycle clubs...from getting along (for lack of stronger words).

The same tactics where used againest the civil rights movement, Vietnam war protesters, the white power groups, the various prison gangs and even the tree huggers (remember the big bad cop holding the girls eyes open and spraying mace into them...because they had chained themselfs to some desk in a governmat office)

There is a new book out by the ATF or DEA agent that was a officer in one of the motorcycle clubs in California. This book futher proves my point.

So it is no wonder that things keep going on as usual. You have people that are getting paid serious money and have exciting jobs...playing supercops. That have a vested interest in keeping the old wounds open and creating new ones.



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Posted on Thu, May 26, 2005 00:12


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I don't want people to think I am stupid, but i am really curious about this. My mom dated a lot of bikers, some in various "gangs" as they used to call them, some who were independent. My mother pawned us off on anybody, so we didn't spend a lot of time with her. I used to hear my grandmother and other people tell these horror stories of bikers who beat their old ladies and passed them around, they were basically forced to be with all the men in the organization. Does this kind of thing still go on?
I have no family except my daughter, who is 10. I would love the thought of having a family, and I am tired of struggling to keep a roof over our heads. I had a man suggest to me a biker "compound" would probably take us in. I don't know what they would require of me. I am pretty easy going and can tolerate quite a bit, but I wouldn't want any danger to my child, and I am a one-man woman. We do both desperately want family. What do y'all think of this. And even if it is a good idea, how would I go about it?




Damn girl!! did you bump your head???

that's got to be the dumbest thing since 53 yr old wanna be prospects (ukin)!!!



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Posted on Wed, May 25, 2005 14:49

I'm sorry but this thread, parts of it, really disturb me. I am trying to stay calm here with GREAT restraint.
First... Gothic, are you nuts!!!!! Do you care about your daughter at all or even yourself?
Second.. Ukin guy... How old are you?
53 or 35? You look to be as old as my
youngest son..... 26.
Are you both so bored and lost you really think like this or is it a poor "setup".
Please forgive me all....
This is just toooooooo much. Live and let live.... Way beyond that point......

  


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Posted on Tue, May 24, 2005 21:36

Gothic... just a tad stronger than Dragon's words... DEFINITELY NOT NOT NOT a good idea....



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Posted on Tue, May 24, 2005 19:29


harleydragon write:

speedyjerry write:
Ya'll could start smuggling terrorists across the borders, halfway across the dessert just shoot them, take their cash and call the cops to come get their weapons of mass destruction before they wind up in the wrong hands.



where in the hell did that come from


your earlier statement "We have enough against us these days , with the law on one side and all these punks trying to fit in on the other side. It's time to wake up , get out of the past and build a better future....together"
Just a suggestion.

  


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Posted on Tue, May 24, 2005 05:36

Ya'll could start smuggling terrorists across the borders, halfway across the dessert just shoot them, take their cash and call the cops to come get their weapons of mass destruction before they wind up in the wrong hands.

  


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Posted on Mon, May 23, 2005 19:05

I don't want people to think I am stupid, but i am really curious about this. My mom dated a lot of bikers, some in various "gangs" as they used to call them, some who were independent. My mother pawned us off on anybody, so we didn't spend a lot of time with her. I used to hear my grandmother and other people tell these horror stories of bikers who beat their old ladies and passed them around, they were basically forced to be with all the men in the organization. Does this kind of thing still go on?
I have no family except my daughter, who is 10. I would love the thought of having a family, and I am tired of struggling to keep a roof over our heads. I had a man suggest to me a biker "compound" would probably take us in. I don't know what they would require of me. I am pretty easy going and can tolerate quite a bit, but I wouldn't want any danger to my child, and I am a one-man woman. We do both desperately want family. What do y'all think of this. And even if it is a good idea, how would I go about it?



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Posted on Mon, May 23, 2005 18:48

I don't post alot, but I felt like i had to say something on this one. Been "around" clubs just about all my life. Got several 1% friends, but made a decision a long time ago to NEVER be anybodys property.......for one, I live by my own set of rules and ride my own motorcycle and won't be told I can't because my old man has some label on his back. Do you realize the expectations you will have? When the club says there is a run, you go or you get fined, your bike breaks down and no tie downs, fines. And that is the nicer parts. The club comes first, before everything else---- and probate definitely aint no picnic. And, if the club has national affiliation, you are a part of the whole group and everything they do, not just your little club. Yea, I'll drop by our OL clubhouse - I'm "known". But, if you think I want to take chances hanging around at a big parties in Chicago-ha- no thanks. Definitely do the hang around for a while longer before you make any decisions- it's a lot easier to get in than out--kinda like Hotel California.



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Posted on Sun, May 22, 2005 23:23

Ukin; As far as I know there are only two clubs in Santa Rosa. The Sonoma County HA and the Ghost Riders. There might be Vietnam Viets and Hog Riders. But the first two clubs would not have you around...unless someone knew you for at least 5 years. I don't think this is the proper place for you to be posting this sort of stuff. I will show your profile to persons in you area. cheers



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Posted on Fri, May 13, 2005 07:33

Carolina Girl; I have been "there" before - but not in the same depth so to speak.

Morning all...been away from here for a little too long...landed myself what I thought was a part time job, to supplement my self employed work...to find out that the job isn't part time, but full time...man am I tired!



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