"Colors" "Patches" OK with you? Romance

  • View author's info posted on Sep 11, 2005 09:05


    I have been in the clubs but this was years ago and if not for a dear friend, not my 'ol man at the time, I would have been doomed. Now knowing another from a club, i would feel perfectly safe and no my life is in good hands....so to speak

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  • View author's info posted on Sep 11, 2005 00:42


    SLB,

    I've been reading a lot of threads on BK and it is clear: There is a huge difference between a 'Man' and a 'guy".

    I am happy to hear about the real 'Man' you know who gave so much to others, and his big heartedness.

    WhataMan
    DD
  • View author's info posted on Sep 06, 2005 22:20



    DoubleDelight write:
    WOW SLB-- What a pic! 10 years younger is right! Feel like a virgin? lol.
    Best,
    DD


    Ha ha ha!
    Thanks DD
    Learned a long time brother went down this week, a cager pulled out of a driveway into the side of N*** bike.
    N*** is a member of a national club one of the five, he's been through a number of surgery's and will be bedridden for sometime to come.
    N*** wasn't wearing a helmet, (Like that would have helped) didn't read that in the paper?
    Now I'll tell you what a Brother is.
    The club had a benefit for N***, quite a lot of funds were raised for N***, then N*** called and said to donate the funds to the brothers stricken by the Hurricane.
    That's what defines a fine man, a "Brother" to the World.
    I'm proud to know this Man!
    Peace

    SLB
  • View author's info posted on Sep 02, 2005 03:53


    WOW SLB-- What a pic! 10 years younger is right! Feel like a virgin? lol.
    Best,
    DD
  • View author's info posted on Sep 01, 2005 21:51


    I started this thread quite a long time ago and I am surprised to see how long this thread has remained alive with this many great BKers speaking their mind. A lot of soul searching and experience has been writen in this thread and I commend each and every one of you.
    The members of Clubs I know are not as bad as the public perceives them to be,
    for instance most I know are Family Men with Sons and Daughters who with their wives lead normal hard working lives, own their own businesses and are law abideing citizens in the communities where they live.
    Their main hobbie is their bike and they're love of riding it, especially in a group ride along side their brothers who they trust and respect.
    Peace

    SLB
  • View author's info posted on Sep 01, 2005 15:14



    Nodey write:
    Sorrry DD. I just came back to this thread and saw your request. Wasn't meaning to ignore you. It's just hard to keep up with all the threads these days.

    Peace to you.


    Nodey,
    Hi!
    Got your email. Thanks!
    Best-g/f. Hope you have a great Labor Day weekend,
    DD
  • View author's info posted on Sep 01, 2005 14:05


    Sorrry DD. I just came back to this thread and saw your request. Wasn't meaning to ignore you. It's just hard to keep up with all the threads these days.

    Peace to you.
  • View author's info posted on Aug 25, 2005 06:48


    ~~~~~~ I would not expect anyone to say anything that is something better left unsaid-for everybodies protection. I am only asking for what CAN be shared and to be educated. Naive is not a great place to sit. And, I will listen and learn. I am here to make good friends, not royally p*iss* people off. I also believe in a certain degree of free speach. Chatting openly about things that can be expressed freely. Private things remain private.
    And, I know about the political bs and the secret clubs. I have looked there and educated myself. I stand by my good intentions and purity of heart.
    DD
  • View author's info posted on Aug 23, 2005 17:31


    a 1% club is an OUTLAW club... shouldn't take a genius to figure out why there's secrecy.. and DD...you may wanna think about changing your post.. making reference to any particular club in an open forum like this isn't such a good idea..
  • View author's info posted on Aug 23, 2005 09:55



    gefallen write:
    Many years ago, the president of the AMA gave a speech where he stated that 99% of of the people you meet on motorcycles are good people.

    The "clubs" at the time took the 1%, and basically adopted that they were the 1% he did not speak of. Now, there are a very small number of 1% clubs. Other clubs are either support clubs, affiliated clubs, tolerated or other.

    Anyone can write what they want. Anyone can assert what the papers and the magazines have blown out of proportion. Anyone can cast a wide net based upon fable or over-exageration.

    Yes, there are some very different people involved in clubs. But, there are different people everywhere. You want to find a pass around? Go to a College Fraternity party. You will find one there faster than at a "club". Oh, but wait, these are the future politicians, lawyers, doctors, etc. We cannot make them look bad.

    There are those that freely give s e x away as a way to feel they are wanted, important, or that they belong. Patches or Colors are not brands of predatory male practices -- they are banners of allegience to their brothers... and their club. Will you find women being abused by some of those people, maybe, but you will also find the same thing everywhere else. Personally, I would start with the history of the Oval Office, paying close attention to JFK, LBJ and Slick Willy Clinton.

    But, for your own good, I would not ask folks to email you or ask many questions about these topics. There are many things folks just don't talk about, or should not. This is not unique to the Colors or Patches... you would likely get the same from the Elks, the Masons, and any other fraternal brotherhoods.

    Well said AJ, being the wife of a departed 1%er, I could not explained it any better. The only thing you didn't touch on is why everyone is so secretative, it's called a code of ethics and honor. Somethings are better left unsaid. My extended family are a great bunch of guys. L&R
  • View author's info posted on Aug 23, 2005 07:36


    Many years ago, the president of the AMA gave a speech where he stated that 99% of of the people you meet on motorcycles are good people.

    The "clubs" at the time took the 1%, and basically adopted that they were the 1% he did not speak of. Now, there are a very small number of 1% clubs. Other clubs are either support clubs, affiliated clubs, tolerated or other.

    Anyone can write what they want. Anyone can assert what the papers and the magazines have blown out of proportion. Anyone can cast a wide net based upon fable or over-exageration.

    Yes, there are some very different people involved in clubs. But, there are different people everywhere. You want to find a pass around? Go to a College Fraternity party. You will find one there faster than at a "club". Oh, but wait, these are the future politicians, lawyers, doctors, etc. We cannot make them look bad.

    There are those that freely give s e x away as a way to feel they are wanted, important, or that they belong. Patches or Colors are not brands of predatory male practices -- they are banners of allegience to their brothers... and their club. Will you find women being abused by some of those people, maybe, but you will also find the same thing everywhere else. Personally, I would start with the history of the Oval Office, paying close attention to JFK, LBJ and Slick Willy Clinton.

    But, for your own good, I would not ask folks to email you or ask many questions about these topics. There are many things folks just don't talk about, or should not. This is not unique to the Colors or Patches... you would likely get the same from the Elks, the Masons, and any other fraternal brotherhoods.
  • View author's info posted on Aug 21, 2005 12:38


    no yes good no problems no....attack nothing just made to feel very at home
  • View author's info posted on Aug 14, 2005 09:36


    it's been a very long time since i've been to a clubhouse,bad experience. as long as i get treated with respect don't bother me none.
  • View author's info posted on Aug 06, 2005 08:32


    Gentle:

    Thank you for a well thought out post. It is both educational and inspiring I am sure to many.

    As far as the stories that one hears or the actual occurences one sees regarding this topic, everyone has a different take. Yours was touching.

    AJ
  • View author's info posted on Aug 05, 2005 20:58


    I have tried over and over again to get my two cents down regarding this post and I finally decided to just say what I have on my mind. My experience centers around the late 60's early 70's when a whole lot of you weren't even thought of.

    We ran with a small club, perhaps less that 50 members. Everything that has been stated here is true...all of it..the negative AND the positive. I wore my husband's property patch with pride. I still have it and each time I look at it brings a smile to my face thinking about times long passed as he is no longer with me. I think it's all in your perception of "property", for me it had the same meaning as my wedding band but afforded me a bit more protection/respect when we were out on a run. Most of the ladies that have posted here would never do that...to each his own and I respect your opinion but more importantly I respect your right to have it.

    When I lost my husband his brothers paid me a "special" visit and informed me that I needn't worry about my son not having a father around, they would help and help they did. They taught him to hunt and to fish. They taught him about what it's like to be a man and how to take responsibility. They gave him confidence, acceptance and reminded him constantly that they wanted better for him than what they had. Today he is a fine family man that I am extremely proud of but I couldn't have done it alone.

    When Dad passed away 16 years ago it was with great sorrow and anger that I found out a color guard was no longer supplied. I turned to my family and they promised to try and get a military honor guard. Much to my surprise there were 3 honor guards that day...3.

    Yep I've seen the trains, most times they were little girls exactly like the one that started this thread that thought all that iron was exciting and they wanted to be a part of it...and they were. I'm not saying they asked for it...I'm merely saying when you walk into a lion's den, be prepared to find a lion.

    I watched leather/chain clad men teaching the kids how to catch and throw a baseball as they entered that little league phase. How to pass a football in the Pop Warner phase. I watched them cry when a brother went down, never to get up again.

    There's 4 left today...old age is catching up to us all. But the fact remains that even in the worst of us there's something good. I'm sure my experiences are way different than the majority that are speaking here because I had one special man that I miss more than I can say.

    That was decades ago before the doctors, lawyers and movie stars all thought it was cool to ride. The people I'm close to did their own repairs, went down every winter in order to come up with something even better than before. Back then EVERYONE had a target on their backs and I can remember being refused service in a cafe simply because of our attire (or lack thereof).

    Nahhhh...I wouldn't recommend that life to anyone for all the reasons that have already been listed and also because it isn't for everyone. Today I wouldn't even think about walking into the lion's den because of a healthy respect or uncanny fear...dunno which is greater but it's insignificant. I merely wanted to point out a slightly different side to some of the men and women who see fit to wear a patch.

    Thank you for your time in allowing me to take a walk in the past. "Feel the wind and set yourself a broader course. Keep your heart as open as a shrine, you'll sail a perfect line" (Mr. Bob Seger)
  • View author's info posted on Aug 03, 2005 14:53


    hi 46 here,

    Well I have no fear of anyone with colours. Although my ex wasnt 1% he is now patching over from what i hear. Anyway, I do know that I was treated with respect when we went to runs or anniversary parties or whatever. And i have never had fear of anyone who wears colors or 1%'s. And now even though him and I are no longer together I know I am still welcome to their houses. And I have my bro to protect me if anyharm comes my direction. The ex and I split on good terms. He just wanted to be single again. oh well thats for another time.
    46andlooking
  • View author's info posted on Jul 20, 2005 10:12


    Yo,
    Well I have never ever wanted to be part of any group think organizations. But have done the biker hing for a lot of years.In those years I have gotten my pecker in the dirt with all sorts of people, all sorts of colors and all sorts of races. I learned early on that we are all just people. We bleed and cry and laugh and love. I run with some patches even to this day and am totally comfortable with them. I respect anyone who will catch a bullet for their brothers and have many brothers who would for me to this day, some where colors and some don't. I see it as just how you carry yourself. I see it as just how you respect others.I have ben around many west coast clubs and a couple east coats clubs.I would rather be around hard core people than wishy washy flakes any day. I like people who have and live by codes! And ther are thoroughbreds among all groups and there are slimey ones ther too!
    Be well! Ride safe! Smile often!
  • View author's info posted on Jul 05, 2005 12:10


    It's always good to be on the outside looking in instead of on the inside looking out, unless you are or were married to one. The life is not for everyone, and as I have said before when you are the spouse left behind it changes alot of things. So unless your heart is in it leave it alone!
  • View author's info posted on Jul 05, 2005 11:36


    "VERY"INTERESTING TOPIC.IM GONNA JUST SIT HERE AND READ AWHILE:)PLEASE CONTINUE!!!!SEE YA IN STURGIS!!!!
  • View author's info posted on Jul 05, 2005 10:12


    I HAVE BEEN AROUND BIKES ALL MY ADULT LIFE....YES THERE ARE SOME 'CLUBS" THAT WOULD SHOOT YOU AS TO LOOK AT YOU..BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT DO SOME GREAT CHERITY WORK AND ARE A GREAT ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY....

    COLORS...I GUESS IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT YOU WEAR THEM FOR..TO TERRORIZE...OR TO DO GOOD....OR IF YOU BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU ARE WEARING...
    OR JUS TLOOKING FOR A PLACE TO BELONG.

    SOME OF THESE CLUBS ARE NO BETTER THAN A PISTOL PACKING STREET GANG....I ONLY GET UNEASY AROUND THEM IF THEY TALKI LIKE A SEWER RAT AND ACT AS IF THEY ARE BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE, BUT I AM UNEASY AAROUND ANYONE THAT TALKS SHIP AND ACTS LIKE THAT...I HATE DRAMA, I LIKE MY LIFE PEACEFULL AND QUIET...AND SHY FROM THOSE WHO CAN NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE PEACE IN MY LIFE....AJ
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