wow what starts as a mole hill becomes a mountain.
lots of posts about disrespect and others not saying nice things. ok a little clarification i guess. Lots of the posts and replies i see are jokes about another or jabs..nothing major. Next day i read " hey no dissing anyone" when is it a diss and when is it fun? and how does someone online have the power to get anyone into an emotional wreck? i think if someone is being downright disrepectful and u answer to it and it goes back and forth .. well the "disser" got what he wanted- response..
in any event..i guess its
say what u mean,mean what u say but dont say it mean.
i dont give anyone that much power over me that some typed BS will upset me for the day or take space in my head.. just some of my thoughts.
CATCHME..I understand and agree with you. I guess my big problem is just a few in their pursuit of acceptance and popularity take it too far.Just my opinion but you know I will voice it..
Shouldn't be here Jerry??..When I joined this site it was a "BIKER" site.Now this was before all these forums and all the trash talk. I built my first chopper at 14 years old. For the last 27 years I have wrenched on and built custom harley davidsons. When the local HD dealership has a problem they can't deal with on an old iron head sport , knuck , pan or shovel the service manager calls me. When they need a part right now and don't have it in stock they call me.Your new Indian is nothing but an aftermarket harley davidson. I can take it apart and put it back together in my sleep. So , no doubt you can dream up great credentials for yourself but don't ever bug on me about having any business being on a biker site.When you first started posting in these forums you were nice and laid back . I have watched you slowly try to build yourself into one of those I mentioned to catchme at the start of this post.Leave this a biker site and take yourself and your wannabes somewhere else..
If someone gets offended or mad from an open forum like this maybe they shouldn't be here, it's just putershit, entertainment, fun. I dish it out and get it shoved back at me again. I don't get mad, if I did you wouldn't see me no more cause I'd shoot my monitor, lol.
HD i hear what you are saying,however im not sure if posting things in forum is actually disrepectful for those who choose to answer some of the questions asked or who participate in the conversations, immature might be a better word. But i think disrepect is to stomp on anothers beliefs and values, acting immature and throwing things that one might normally keep between themselves to me isnt disrespecting to me.. i would think it says more about those who respond then it does about my not liking to read it.. hey the bottom line is if i dont like it i skip over it... take what helps u here and what does not leave behind.. but yes HD i have seen somethings in posts that i personally never replied to- however i just took it in jest- and choose not to respond.
HD, I really do appreciate your strong views on respect and showing respect to others. In my personal life I am very strong about setting and holding my boundaries. I know I can't control others and have too much to do in my own life to try to. But there are some things I won't put up with if it's directed at me personally. Other than that I guess I just live and let live.
I think I probably have the same values you have when it comes to respect for myself and others. And I am glad that most of the stuff I read on the forums doesn't offend me. I'm much more uncomfortable when people insult and attach each other than I am with sexual innuendos or some of the surveys or trash talk, although most of that is not my cup of tea either. But that's just me.
On one hand, I'm aware that we really can't control other people, or what they choose to post, and shouldn't, although limits and decorum are nice to have. On the other hand, I do appreciate your putting yourself out there and opening yourself up to dissension by posting your strong feelings. It probably at least makes people aware and maybe keeps some of the forums comfortable places for some of us more old-fashioned types.
Hey, I just happened upon a writing in a book, the first page I turned to when I opened the book a few minutes ago. I'll just share it. The thinking is a little different, many people may not agree with it. But just something to ponder.
"There is no need for me to suffer because of the behavior of others. I can only change my responses. This sets me free to enjoy my own life."
"The next time I react to another's behavior, I'll ask myself how many times I've reacted the same way before."
everyone has different ideas as to what respect is. A lot of that depends on our background. No doubt a new yorkers views could be much different than the views of someone from the deep south. In my opinion for me to truly respect you I must not only do that from what I view as respectful but must also not cross your boundaries either.I believe that is mutual respect if we both do that.That can have a tendency to make what might be viewed as fun in a private atmosphere to be disrespectful in public depending on our different views. This is as public as it gets.
"say what you mean, mean what you say but don't say it mean"
I've heard that before and I really like it.
Catchme, you make some good points in your writings, and a lot of the things you write make me ponder things. I agree, we don't have to choose to give anyone power over us by their opinions and words that they express on this forum. After all, not very many of us actually have each other in our day-to-day lives away from this computer screen.
My feeling is, if I get to the point where I don't enjoy these forums, or particular ones, I'll move on.
I do feel that there's more positive stuff put on these forums than negative, although I can't really keep up with everything that's written. I read a lot of good-natured humor, which is healing, a lot of support from one to another. And a lot of respectful disagreements.
But then we all go and deal with whatever's happening in our 3-D lives, right?