I wanted to say this: There are good people out there who because they drink or use drugs -too much- cannot be trusted at all. To remember what they say, what they do, what they promise or give their word on, etc. Also, in their own mind and heart they cannot be honest with themselves and float down a murky river named Denial. No such river, of course. And if they are in such denial with themselves, they can't help lying everywhere else. I know I could have posted this thread under health, but because it affects/ruins relationships so much I wanted to put it here instead. It's really frickin' sad.
DD
I wanted to say this:
There are good people out there who because they drink or use drugs -too much- cannot be trusted at all. To remember what they say, what they do, what they promise or give their word on, etc.
Also, in their own mind and heart they cannot be honest with themselves and float down a murky river named Denial. No such river, of course. And if they are in such denial with themselves, they can't help lying everywhere else.
I know I could have posted this thread under health, but because it affects/ruins relationships so much I wanted to put it here instead.
It's really frickin' sad.
Damn! I saw this thread and thought it was an invite to a party!
Damn! I saw this thread and thought it was an invite to a party!
Me too C...what a bummer! hey, pour me another drink and light up a fat one would ya? LOL
Kidding folks...or am I!? You gotta lighten up here...every other thread is about someone's problem....how the hell ya ever gonna get a date??? Can we laugh, kid, joke, do summin besides this all the time??? We have dysfunctional folks all around us..hell, I'm one of 'em...put me in a room and close the door and I'll get lost before I can come out...Directionally dysfunctional...and yes, Doc, it's a legit disease! Ok, maybe not legit..but I can't help it anyway!
Angel what has become of our BK?
It seems there are more and more gripes being posted all the time here, BK is becoming a soap opera and it suks.
If I had a personal problem I would take it to a professional, not discuss it on a biker forum. People will talk and gossip about you soon if you keep bringing up your problems here (just like in real life).
OK I'm stepping off my soapbox.
Damn! I saw this thread and thought it was an invite to a party!
Damn! I saw this thread and thought it was an invite to a party!
Me too C...what a bummer! hey, pour me another drink and light up a fat one would ya? LOL
Kidding folks...or am I!? You gotta lighten up here...every other thread is about someone's problem....how the hell ya ever gonna get a date??? Can we laugh, kid, joke, do summin besides this all the time??? We have dysfunctional folks all around us..hell, I'm one of 'em...put me in a room and close the door and I'll get lost before I can come out...Directionally dysfunctional...and yes, Doc, it's a legit disease! Ok, maybe not legit..but I can't help it anyway!
DoubleDelight write: I wanted to say this: There are good people out there who because they drink or use drugs -too much- cannot be trusted at all. To remember what they say, what they do, what they promise or give their word on, etc. Also, in their own mind and heart they cannot be honest with themselves and float down a murky river named Denial. No such river, of course. And if they are in such denial with themselves, they can't help lying everywhere else. I know I could have posted this thread under health, but because it affects/ruins relationships so much I wanted to put it here instead. It's really frickin' sad.
seeme said:"so yes--if it affects you please get help---bill w can be a good friend"
Seeme -too funny!
I have been friends of friend's of Bill W for a long time! hehe. I already posted that under-well somewhere! Can't find stuff on bk! It was an appropriate spot though. Probably addictions.
Bill W programs can be very helpful, healthy and create life long permanent changes. I have seen people completely change their lives around for the better.
Take what works and leave the rest...
Focusing on the positive. facing the dirction of positive, healthy goals. Staying in the light, and always being willing to grow, change and improve.
DD
I know I could have posted this thread under health, but because it affects/ruins relationships so much I wanted to put it here instead.
It's really frickin' sad.
DDI wanted to say this:
There are good people out there who because they drink or use drugs -too much- cannot be trusted at all. To remember what they say, what they do, what they promise or give their word on, etc.
Also, in their own mind and heart they cannot be honest with themselves and float down a murky river named Denial. No such river, of course. And if they are in such denial with themselves, they can't help lying everywhere else.
I know I could have posted this thread under health, but because it affects/ruins relationships so much I wanted to put it here instead.
It's really frickin' sad.
DD
The other thing is you can't trust who they are because when using their personalities change--they aren't the real them--can get nasty--physically abusive-over$exed to anyone that will give them attention--you name it they can become it
then there are those that are in recovery but are still what is termed dry drunks--the using has stopped but the negative behavior is still there
so yes--if it affects you please get help---bill w can be a good friend
Drunks create so much damn havoc for good people around them. Destroy peace. Try to turn people against one-another. LIE. Then lie some more to people that have supported them through thick and thin. Sukk the people around them dry, but only if they are allowed to do so!
They stir up major POOP.
I am happy to permantly remove people like this OFF all my commication lines.
One such person is off my list. May they some day wake up and get a life, take responsibility for all their wrongs, and make amends.
I am not holding my breath. I try to think the best of people. Sometimes poisen and poisen Ivy has to be cut away, so it doesn't spread and contaminate everyone and everything around it. Chop-chop!
DoubleDelight write: I wanted to say this: There are good people out there who because they drink or use drugs -too much- cannot be trusted at all. To remember what they say, what they do, what they promise or give their word on, etc. Also, in their own mind and heart they cannot be honest with themselves and float down a murky river named Denial. No such river, of course. And if they are in such denial with themselves, they can't help lying everywhere else. I know I could have posted this thread under health, but because it affects/ruins relationships so much I wanted to put it here instead. It's really frickin' sad.
DoubleDelight write: I wanted to say this: There are good people out there who because they drink or use drugs -too much- cannot be trusted at all. To remember what they say, what they do, what they promise or give their word on, etc. Also, in their own mind and heart they cannot be honest with themselves and float down a murky river named Denial. No such river, of course. And if they are in such denial with themselves, they can't help lying everywhere else. I know I could have posted this thread under health, but because it affects/ruins relationships so much I wanted to put it here instead. It's really frickin' sad.
DoubleDelight write: I wanted to say this: There are good people out there who because they drink or use drugs -too much- cannot be trusted at all. To remember what they say, what they do, what they promise or give their word on, etc. Also, in their own mind and heart they cannot be honest with themselves and float down a murky river named Denial. No such river, of course. And if they are in such denial with themselves, they can't help lying everywhere else. I know I could have posted this thread under health, but because it affects/ruins relationships so much I wanted to put it here instead. It's really frickin' sad.
DD
the age at which a person becomes addicted, be it food, drugs, gambling, whatever, is the age at which they stop maturing emotionally, which, in a healthy person, is a never ending process. over time they are less and less able to sustain relationships, neither growing themselves, or able to adapt to changes of people maturing around them, leaving them behind.
I agree, DD. I recently realized that my Unc; who I was raised with and who is more my older brother, than Unc, is a prescription addict. He is killing himself with both legal and when he can't get them, illegal drugs. It brings much saddness.
I agree, DD. I recently realized that my Unc; who I was raised with and who is more my older brother, than Unc, is a prescription addict. He is killing himself with both legal and when he can't get them, illegal drugs. It brings much saddness.
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