I have taken some time today and read countless profiles from women on this site and a couple of others. Then spent some time going over the forum here and I am confused about something.

It is fair to say that 99.5% of every profile out here that describes what kind of man you are looking for has something to do with being honest, kind, not a player etc. At the same time, from some of these very same people, there are countless post in this very forum that totally bashes and verbally abuses men because they are looking for "trophy girls" or "eye candy". If some of you are wondering and upset because some men dont respond after talking with you or just disapeer, could it be that maybe some of them were being kind, nice, not wanting to be rude or take a chance in hurting someones feelings. Men see the bashing some of us get for not saying bye, can You imagin what we think we will here if we do say something?

My question is, do you really want a honest man or just a man that will honestly tell you what you want to hear. Come on, help a brother out.

Thanks Bea.. I am good to go..I am a strong, strong person with a strong will, which of course is my saving grace. However, people like this pray on people who don't have such strong wills and the type of confidence I have. I think there are a few on here who know me a little better than others, and I think my confidence and esteem caught this person a little off guard and my strength wasn't expected. My fear is that this type of prey exists and continues, and others suffer who are less able to conquer and remove themselves. And that person still exists, here.

BHG..i read what you wrote, and i am sorry for what happened...this guys sounds like a piece of works........you are right though, some just have the gift of bullshit, unfourtently (sp) at someone eles's expence, and from time to time we do fall for it.......and yes it is a major hurt.......your a beautiful women, extremely smart, and strong....if only there was a magic wand, right.....if you ever need anything, just give one of thoes big OK hollars.......keep you in my thoughts for the hurt to pass, i don't know do you think the woodchipper should come back out?.....if there is anything?........just ask.......

northy....ahhhhhh now, sorry about the deafness, now you woun't be able to hear us bitching......lmao.........have a good one

You are right..This person, who had a vast "collection" or photo album of trophy's and conquests and conquests yet to be had..His profile states that he is seeking a lifetime commitment, a person to fall in love with for the rest of is life, to love and to be loved by; What a line of crap, and that is what it is..It is what he knows to say to women because it is what women want to hear, so that he can draw them in to his web of deceit and collect another trophy. He has no intentions of "loving for a lifetime commitment"..If he did, would he be developing an album of "know her, know her, had her, haven't had her yet"?? And showing it to ME??? And the worst part, and yes, there is a worse part, is some of the photo's didn't even have faces on them, and he still knew who they were..

Bea,

I think you have hit the nail on the head! I would rather have a quasamoto also and have a guy be honest and truthful than a drop dead gorgeous guy who play the lying game. Trust is a big issue with me! Can't tellyou how many guys think its okay to play mind games with lies. Oh, and I DO know there are women out htere who do the same thing!
I am jsut looking for a guy who can get past the outside package.....which to me is pretty fine........to get what's inside the package! I am the type of woman that if you are straight up front with me...I will be with you! Give me all of you and you got me hooked for life...I will give you eveyr part of me...hook, line and sinker! I am a one man woman anddon't like games from guys as I know there is the same with guys! I try very hard not to bash men or women but unfortunately, there are a bunch of bad apples out in the world who spoil it for everyone else. All, I can say guys is....there are some great women out there...heack, on here, who have been hurt but we are willing to go for it again...to open our hearts and lives to you...just get past the outside package and get to know us! I would for you! I hope I have not offended anyone or rambled on...roflmao..I tend to do that sometimes!

2K.....can't speak for anyone else, but BHG says it right......and i think alot has to do with age and experience.....when we (females-and correct me if i am wrong ladies)....were younger, will admit with no reservations----looks were on the top of the list, but as we "mature", have families, ect, and grow up-we don't care about looks like men seem to......we would take a quasemoto (sp)with a heart of truth and love over any guy with the looks and no heart or truth.....trust is a hard thing, and to find someone to trust your dreams with again would be heaven on earth....we need to know the truth, thats how we trust.....a truth is so much eaiser to forgive then one lie is......we don't want to play headgames, or the such......just live and hopefully find someone to share our lives with.........i don't know if this answers you question......

I prefer an honest man, who means what he says and says what he means. The part of your statement about verbally bashing men regarding trophy girls, etc. I am not sure if that is in my profile here or not, but I have personally experience that, from a person on this site; and I will give you the example, of a person who "collects" and has a "photo album" of his "trophys" and of which was "shared" with me as in "know her, know her, don't know her yet, know her, she's crazy, she nice, etc" so ladies be careful of the photos you share, and who you share them with.

DEAR 2K

YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE EYE CANDY...BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER!!!!!!!

I THINK WHAT WOMAN ARE SAYING ABOUT THE SUBJECT IS THAT THERE ARE MEN OUT THERE THAT ONLY SEE THE BEAUTY SKIN DEEP AND DON'T SEE WHAT IS IN THE HEART..SOME TIMES IT SEEMS THAT ALL MEN WANT IS A GIRL THAT WILL LOOK GOOD TO THIER FRIENDS..I THINK IT IS A MANS EGO...BUT I HAVE FOUND THAT THE MEN I DATE OR WOULD DATE..ARE NOT ALL THAT GOOD LOOKING BUT ITS THE HEART AND I DON'T CARE WHAT MY FRIENDS SAY...CAUSE IF MY FRIENDS DIDN'T LIKE MY DATE BECAUSE OF HIS LOOKS THEY WOULD NOT BE MY FRIEND....IT IS PART OF THE PROCREATION PROSSES OF EVOLVING THAT MAKES US PICK MATES THAT ARE ATTRACTIVE, AND THAT IS ALL WONDERFULL, BUT AT 48 I AM REALIZING THAT I DON'T LOOK AS I DID WHEN I WAS 20...EVERYONE GROWS OLDER AND WON'T KEEP THE SAME LOOKS AS A 20 YR. OLD..OK..WHEN IT COMES TO HONESTY...YOU CAN BE HONEST AND KIND AAT THE SAME TIME...I PREFER A MAN JUST TO TELL ME I'M A GREAT GIRL, BUT AM LOOKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT...HOW CAN YOU NOT REPECT THAT?????? AT LEAST I KNOW WHERE HE STANDS...IF A GIRL CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH THAN SHE'S NOT FOR YOU ANYWAY....GOOD LUCK

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OMG!!!!! Dang it, Wolfie! I had to pick myself up off the floor again, YOU NUT!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!

Damn I've been eating with chopsticks since I was a tot, I know what sensative is but what is new age.....trendy???....snaps at the poetry club?????...using the "Bowflex" instead of the"mowflex" (cutin your grass and yard work for exercise instead of hiring someone) really help me out!!!

then he can surrender his ego so that spirituality can take its place. Spirituality is where equality exists,
and it is in that Spirit that Men and Women can once more live in balance and harmony with each other.

Speaking for myself, men still have primitive instincts as far as being the hunter and provider. Although most men have never figured it out, we have creation envy because we dont give birth, the women do. As a result, our job actually becomes secondary in the scheme of life and evolution. Men need to have a role thats important in the sceme of things, the women create, the men provide for the women, who care for the offspring so that the species will continue. Thats the base animal aspect of it. On the current psychological side of it, women have been subjected to thousands of years of patriarchy. As a result women are retaliating, and so are the men. Men in our culture dont have a clue about equality between the sexes. In native american culture both the women and the men sat around the council fire. Decisions were made based on input from both sexes, which was required for sane, rational and balanced outcomes. In our society men are way behind in catching up to the changes that are occuring in our cultures. The base instinct says if I cant control it then I need to fight it. Thats what men are doing, they are still fighting, resisting the change thats occurring within our society. Its going to take many years, maybe even many generations before the slow sex catches up. An Indian Elder, 'Black Elks', speaks in his prophicies of the mending of the hoop. The hoop represents the four races on earth. The hoop has been broken from thousands of years of wars and differences in beliefs. With the coming of the new race the hoop will be mended and humans can once again live in harmony with each other. This mending of the hoop between the races is the same mending that needs to take place between men and women. The 'Male Ego' needs to be sacrificed for the future of humanity, but from a males perspective, the 'Ego' is 'GOD' and therefore cannot be sacrificed. When a man can come to believe that there is a power greater than himself, 'A True God',

I am attracted to sensitive New Age guys. I am definitely not wanting a man who will treat me bad. I have done some self-analyzing and think I have figured out the problem that a lot of women have including myself. Most of my generation comes from broken homes. Our fathers weren't around, so our mothers had to work. We grew up seeing women working and men either being absent or not working and being supported by a woman. The little boys being solely supported by their mothers, grew up believing that a woman should support him. Us girls, even the ones like me who are dead set against financial supporting a man, attract these men. The reason we attract these men is because we are strong self-supporting women with jobs, so these little mama's boys think we will be a meal ticket. The whole traditional male and female roles have been distorted. Then to make matters worse, if a man doesn't work, he doesn't feel like a man. So not only are these women working and supporting men, but because the men don't feel like men and are insecure, they beat the very woman who supports him. I personally think I don't have a man because I am self- supporting in many ways, not only financially, but if something breaks, I fix it myself, etc. It's like the good men want some delicate flower who can't take care of herself, so us strong women are left with the weak little mama's boys. My generation is full of strong women and weak men. I want a man who is stronger than me in every way. I don't feel I should have to change to find that. Aren't there men secure enough in their manhood to want a woman who doesn't need him but will love and appreciate him?

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Leila

you are partly right--but i have found the closer i get to being a truely fine wine-hahahahahaha my short term memory isn't the same--and it may take a few to remember what i said or didn't or i forget what i wanted to say--just because i do not remember dosen't mean it is an untruth. it will usually come to me if i need it to. candidate or the dreaded disease???????
although
right now i'm trying to remember what i did with an overpayment check from shell--not a good thing--it may sound strange but it is a proven fact of life--the more birthdays we've celebrated the worse our short term memory is but the better our long term memory is--got that from several psych classes---


what i like is "i don't rememeber that but sounds like something i would say"!!!!!

LadyV- funny and true. 2K I want honesty and a good memory. Sometimes someone can be honest and then they "don't remember saying that". Weird truth is, if your honest you don't have to remember the lies and your memory may improve.

i want honesty guided with sensitivity

and this ram (aries) isn't always that way either sooooooooo the ability to forgive is also important

1st impression is with a invitating smile with fine bright teeth.