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Posted on Wed, Jan 09, 2008 16:18

I recently said; Hell No I would'nt vote for a women president but then I had to reflect on some words of wisdom: Our rides, loud, gleaming paint..is after all for the sake of the Mighty P. Our jobs, rakin in the jingle is for the sake of supporting the Mighty P. Our free time yet again in search of the Mighty P. Maybe we men should just give in & vote for the Mighty P and accept our subsequent rations of that purdy little fuzzy thang we spend nine months fighting to get out & the rest of our lives to get back in. The Horse


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Posted on Tue, Jan 15, 2008 20:41

I don't think I'm voting this one....I usually do vote, but I'm not too haappy with the choices, but then, Hil ran the country for 8 years already and guess she din't do too bad of a job....shoulda kept a better eye on her husband, but then she was busy running a country...lol. Ride Easy....


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Posted on Tue, Jan 15, 2008 09:59

Re: You are pretty cute yourself CG :) What a simple, eloquent statement. I am glad you posted that. I might just steal that from Abe. :) CinnamonGirlOH write: Oh T, I love it when we can geek together like this! Do you come in a male version? I find it interesting that abolition was not really a point of contention during the war until both sides were trying encourage blacks join their respective sides and fight. Blacks fought on both sides, (both as stand ins and stand alones) and if you read the regiment histories, they were considered some of most courageous units. Yeah, I have read the same thing about Lincoln. He was a very very depressed man it seems. Most accounts agree that the deaths of sons Edward and Willie while still young had a profound effect on his personality. Here's a quote from Lincoln when he was asked to address those who were critical of him: "If I were to try to read, much less answer, all the attacks made on me, this shop might as well be closed for any other business. I do the very best I know how - the very best I can; and I mean to keep doing so until the end. If the end brings me out all right, what's said against me won't amount to anything. If the end brings me out wrong, ten angels swearing I was right would make no difference."



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Posted on Tue, Jan 15, 2008 03:21

Oh T, I love it when we can geek together like this! Do you come in a male version? I find it interesting that abolition was not really a point of contention during the war until both sides were trying encourage blacks join their respective sides and fight. Blacks fought on both sides, (both as stand ins and stand alones) and if you read the regiment histories, they were considered some of most courageous units. Yeah, I have read the same thing about Lincoln. He was a very very depressed man it seems. Most accounts agree that the deaths of sons Edward and Willie while still young had a profound effect on his personality. Here's a quote from Lincoln when he was asked to address those who were critical of him: "If I were to try to read, much less answer, all the attacks made on me, this shop might as well be closed for any other business. I do the very best I know how - the very best I can; and I mean to keep doing so until the end. If the end brings me out all right, what's said against me won't amount to anything. If the end brings me out wrong, ten angels swearing I was right would make no difference."


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Posted on Mon, Jan 14, 2008 16:33

Re: Yep, you are absolutely right. Slavery was really an issue only due to the financial impact of both A) continuing it and B) abolishing it. It was a lose/lose situation financially and the South fought desperately to keep it. Many in the South knew this too, the industrialiation was booming, being evolutionized faster and faster. They knew that they would lose when the day came that slavery would simply not be cost effective and they would lose if they fought to keep it. So much of that had to do with why recovery, reconstruction, was agonizingly slow. But of course, as with any war...the real conflict is hidden behind altruistic agendas. No, Lincoln was not too popular. I just read in "Atlantic" that he was actually very manic depressive. If alive today that is what he would have been diagnosed. His friends often wrote of his "great meloncholy" and he was, in his own writings, very taken with the idea of suicide. Very sad man. What propelled him into presidencey, emotionally speaking, is beyond me. I think that is one war that people never cease to be fascinated by. For so many reasons. Maybe one because it was the most unnecessary and avoidable war. Yet at the same time a so very unavoidable war. CinnamonGirlOH write: You are right about Abe, but at the time of his presidency he was not an overy popular figure... What most folks don't realize (I know you do, you geeky fellow history reader) is the Civil War was not started to abolish slavery. The Civil War started out as a tax rebellion, which eventually included emancipation of slaves as one of its goals. Two sides at war, the North had begun it's force as a industrial based economy, while the south was still agragarian and tied to the land. If you took away the slaves, which were the backbone of this economy, the southern economy and independence would collapse, which is what happened, thus solving both problems. Re: TreasureTheHobo write: Re: And I suspect she stayed with him for purely political reasons. She knew where she wanted to go and divorced was not gonna get her there. Even in this day and age. I wish we had the old time candidates from years back. Like Lincoln, everyone thinks he was against slavery and freed the slaves. Well, he was against any more states becoming slave states, it wasn't that he was out to free them. BUT....he nipped something in the bud. I think he was smart enough to know you can't just stop the machine and make it go backwards but you can, by degrees, disable it. His feelings about slavery were not the issue, he saw that it would destroy the country if continued. Now to me that is a thinking man. A people's president. I just don't think we have that kind of integrity now days. HDsweetcheeks write: She not doing so good lately...I live in NY and I wont vote for her. Any woman who stays with her husband after he cheated on her, isnt someone I want to run the country



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Posted on Mon, Jan 14, 2008 05:59

Re: TreasureTheHobo write: Re: And I suspect she stayed with him for purely political reasons. She knew where she wanted to go and divorced was not gonna get her there. Even in this day and age. I wish we had the old time candidates from years back. Like Lincoln, everyone thinks he was against slavery and freed the slaves. Well, he was against any more states becoming slave states, it wasn't that he was out to free them. BUT....he nipped something in the bud. I think he was smart enough to know you can't just stop the machine and make it go backwards but you can, by degrees, disable it. His feelings about slavery were not the issue, he saw that it would destroy the country if continued. Now to me that is a thinking man. A people's president. I just don't think we have that kind of integrity now days. HDsweetcheeks write: She not doing so good lately...I live in NY and I wont vote for her. Any woman who stays with her husband after he cheated on her, isnt someone I want to run the country

You are right about Abe, but at the time of his presidency he was not an overy popular figure... What most folks don't realize (I know you do, you geeky fellow history reader) is the Civil War was not started to abolish slavery. The Civil War started out as a tax rebellion, which eventually included emancipation of slaves as one of its goals. Two sides at war, the North had begun it's force as a industrial based economy, while the south was still agragarian and tied to the land. If you took away the slaves, which were the backbone of this economy, the southern economy and independence would collapse, which is what happened, thus solving both problems.


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Posted on Mon, Jan 14, 2008 05:34

Re: TreasureTheHobo write: Re: And I suspect she stayed with him for purely political reasons. She knew where she wanted to go and divorced was not gonna get her there. Even in this day and age. I wish we had the old time candidates from years back. Like Lincoln, everyone thinks he was against slavery and freed the slaves. Well, he was against any more states becoming slave states, it wasn't that he was out to free them. BUT....he nipped something in the bud. I think he was smart enough to know you can't just stop the machine and make it go backwards but you can, by degrees, disable it. His feelings about slavery were not the issue, he saw that it would destroy the country if continued. Now to me that is a thinking man. A people's president. I just don't think we have that kind of integrity now days. HDsweetcheeks write: She not doing so good lately...I live in NY and I wont vote for her. Any woman who stays with her husband after he cheated on her, isnt someone I want to run the country

OH Im sure she did..but she wont get my vote for that reason.


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Posted on Fri, Jan 11, 2008 08:35

Re: And I suspect she stayed with him for purely political reasons. She knew where she wanted to go and divorced was not gonna get her there. Even in this day and age. I wish we had the old time candidates from years back. Like Lincoln, everyone thinks he was against slavery and freed the slaves. Well, he was against any more states becoming slave states, it wasn't that he was out to free them. BUT....he nipped something in the bud. I think he was smart enough to know you can't just stop the machine and make it go backwards but you can, by degrees, disable it. His feelings about slavery were not the issue, he saw that it would destroy the country if continued. Now to me that is a thinking man. A people's president. I just don't think we have that kind of integrity now days. HDsweetcheeks write: She not doing so good lately...I live in NY and I wont vote for her. Any woman who stays with her husband after he cheated on her, isnt someone I want to run the country



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Posted on Fri, Jan 11, 2008 07:09

Re: Horse4U write: I recently said; Hell No I would'nt vote for a women president but then I had to reflect on some words of wisdom: Our rides, loud, gleaming paint..is after all for the sake of the Mighty P. Our jobs, rakin in the jingle is for the sake of supporting the Mighty P. Our free time yet again in search of the Mighty P. Maybe we men should just give in & vote for the Mighty P and accept our subsequent rations of that purdy little fuzzy thang we spend nine months fighting to get out & the rest of our lives to get back in. The Horse

Love your profile. At least its honest. Bit Picky for one not that pretty. But then I don't put up with crap so I suppose we'll never meet. lol. We get hair in our teeth aswell. I'll wax it all for you if you want. Back sack n Crack. junie


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Posted on Fri, Jan 11, 2008 06:38

Re: Horse4U write: When poor simple folk can take this country's leadership poor simple folk's issue's will be repaired. They all should have a hard-on for fixin the problems rather than the post. If I was allowed to vote, I think Huckabee would get the White Trash Labor Party vote. Can't get past that name though, it'd be like have Gomer Pyle for president.

That is the arguement for salaries for delegates. In England the Labour Party was started by Keir Hardy, A man who was financially supported by the working man to represent them. Before that any MP was Conservative who where supported by the elite and Upper Class and the Liberals who were supported by the new money the industrialists and mill owners. So the poor man had no one to represent him. That is where the Labour Party came from. Not from Communism Poor folk putting together to financially support someone who would represnt them. Now the Labour Paty have turned their back on the working man and have systematically taken away more rights than anyone else in the last ten years. Kinda remeinds me of Animal Farm by George Orwell. Surprised they aren't sellign the old folk to the glue factory. They have restricted their access or right to healthcare even though they are the generation who paid for it. junie


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Posted on Fri, Jan 11, 2008 06:28

Re: irishpatti write: Re: MI governer Granholm has run MI into the bloody ground! Ship her sorry arse back to Canada. She even dumps her Canadian garbage in MI landfills! Bring back someone with values to MI. Highest unemployment in the country! Junie2006 write: We had a female leader. I hated her guts and she was an enemy to then normal working man and our rights. But she was tough, single minded and she got things done and was in pwer for 11 years. I didn't hate her becasue she was a woman it was becasue I don't think she was human or had a himan heart. Germany's female leader is very good and there are several over here in Europe and they are good at focusing on the real issues instead of male egos and powers battles Our greatest leaders were women. Elizabeth 1st William and Mary. Our Queen continued the prestige and honour of the moarchy until again it has been ruined by the selfish male ego Charles. Women don't work for the Mighty "P" They work for stability of home, community and family. and keep our eye on the ball. Not on caught up in the need to test our testosterone. That's why we are better. Get rid of yoru prejudices. Might even get more "P" if you did. junie Re: Horse4U write: I recently said; Hell No I would'nt vote for a women president but then I had to reflect on some words of wisdom: Our rides, loud, gleaming paint..is after all for the sake of the Mighty P. Our jobs, rakin in the jingle is for the sake of supporting the Mighty P. Our free time yet again in search of the Mighty P. Maybe we men should just give in & vote for the Mighty P and accept our subsequent rations of that purdy little fuzzy thang we spend nine months fighting to get out & the rest of our lives to get back in. The Horse

I don't know all your politics or politicians. But I do know your female ones look a lot smarter and sound a lot smarter than ours. Ours look like bag ladies and talk like they are at the viacr's tea party and since Tony's babes have become sycophantic Yes women to join the Yes men. Here have one of ours Anne Widdicombe. Used to Frighten the children and turn the milk. She is also as thick as pig shit. So no redeeming qualtities whatsoever. Ann Widdecombe - otherwise known as DORIS KARLOFF junie

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Posted on Fri, Jan 11, 2008 06:25

Maybe my political views have been what put the old Horse on the airlines "Watched" list LOL


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Posted on Fri, Jan 11, 2008 06:23

When poor simple folk can take this country's leadership poor simple folk's issue's will be repaired. They all should have a hard-on for fixin the problems rather than the post. If I was allowed to vote, I think Huckabee would get the White Trash Labor Party vote. Can't get past that name though, it'd be like have Gomer Pyle for president.


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Posted on Thu, Jan 10, 2008 22:59

Re: Me neither! I have always always paid my own way thru life. Everything I own is because I EARNED it! sprgld125 write: I have never had a man work to support me. What's it like? Sort of like asking your Dad for spending money and having to explain why you want it? No thanks.



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Posted on Thu, Jan 10, 2008 22:55

Re: MI governer Granholm has run MI into the bloody ground! Ship her sorry arse back to Canada. She even dumps her Canadian garbage in MI landfills! Bring back someone with values to MI. Highest unemployment in the country! Junie2006 write: We had a female leader. I hated her guts and she was an enemy to then normal working man and our rights. But she was tough, single minded and she got things done and was in pwer for 11 years. I didn't hate her becasue she was a woman it was becasue I don't think she was human or had a himan heart. Germany's female leader is very good and there are several over here in Europe and they are good at focusing on the real issues instead of male egos and powers battles Our greatest leaders were women. Elizabeth 1st William and Mary. Our Queen continued the prestige and honour of the moarchy until again it has been ruined by the selfish male ego Charles. Women don't work for the Mighty "P" They work for stability of home, community and family. and keep our eye on the ball. Not on caught up in the need to test our testosterone. That's why we are better. Get rid of yoru prejudices. Might even get more "P" if you did. junie Re: Horse4U write: I recently said; Hell No I would'nt vote for a women president but then I had to reflect on some words of wisdom: Our rides, loud, gleaming paint..is after all for the sake of the Mighty P. Our jobs, rakin in the jingle is for the sake of supporting the Mighty P. Our free time yet again in search of the Mighty P. Maybe we men should just give in & vote for the Mighty P and accept our subsequent rations of that purdy little fuzzy thang we spend nine months fighting to get out & the rest of our lives to get back in. The Horse



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Posted on Thu, Jan 10, 2008 13:06

She not doing so good lately...I live in NY and I wont vote for her. Any woman who stays with her husband after he cheated on her, isnt someone I want to run the country


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Posted on Thu, Jan 10, 2008 12:52

You all know why we white trash speak our minds? Because We Can


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Posted on Thu, Jan 10, 2008 12:23

I have never had a man work to support me. What's it like? Sort of like asking your Dad for spending money and having to explain why you want it? No thanks.


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Posted on Thu, Jan 10, 2008 09:08

Panties??? <<<<< has none, granny or otherwise. And no, the only thing my mom ever said to me was "don't let boys touch you". That was the extent of my sex ed. Hence my late blooming.


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Posted on Thu, Jan 10, 2008 07:50

if she wins, i am moving to canada


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