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Posted on Wed, Sep 19, 2007 22:00

Falcon stated a few weeks back something like, well if the Dems wanted the occupation to end why don't they pass a bill. The answer is simple; each time a bill is brought into the senate, the GOPs either block the vote [filibuster] or vote against it. The latest GOP victory, Webb Amdt. No. 2909: which specifies minimum periods between deployment of units and members of the Armed Forces deployed for Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. All but 6 GOPs voted for indefinite tours of duty. The 6 GOPs who really support the troops: Collins (R-ME), Snowe (R-ME), Coleman (R-MN), Hagel (R-NE), Sununu (R-NH), Smith (R-OR). Not one Dem voted against limiting CONTINOUS tours. Hagel, [R-NE], said the White House also "has been very effective at making this a loyalty test for the Republican Party." Now that is the GOP party's verse of supporting the troops. I see the NEW nation pledge should go something like, "I pledge Allegiance to the Bush and the GOP National Party". You got to love those hypocrites.


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Posted on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 05:52

Falcon, Preemptive invasions violate international laws. "For anyone who hasn't heard the full story, Rush Limbaugh is still being lambasted by Democrats in Congress" -- Didn't the GOP and the DEMS lambasted MoveOn about General Betray-us? 341 members of the House & 72 Senators voted to condemn MoveOn. Rep. Frank Pallone (D-NJ) asked whether those who condemned MoveOn would now "hold Rush Limbaugh to the same standard". Well do you? ".. for the record, in context he was speaking about the likes of Jesse MacBeth" -- Now I heard the whole interview and there was no mention of Jesse MacBeth, before, during, or after the caller [who's name was Mike from Chicago] who said he "used to be military," and "believe[s] that we should pull out of Iraq." Other examples of Rush's BS: On January 25, Rush stated he had a new name for Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), a Nam vet: "Senator Betrayus." A day earlier, Hagel had sided with Dems on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in voting to approve a nonbinding resolution declaring that President Bush's escalation in Iraq was against "the national interest." On August 21, 2006, Limbaugh said: "I want to respectfully disagree with the president on the last part of what he said. I am going to challenge the patriotism of people who disagree with him because the people that disagree with him want to lose." "Here's the biggest problem: MILLIONS of Arabs have seen this as if Abu Graib wasn't enough of a nightmare." -- OK, do a google search on 'torture picture sbs dateline Abu Ghraib', now there is the great propaganda material for terrorists. So, when Bush stated last Friday that, "the US doesn't torture", more people around the world look at him and the US and probably thought, the US is full of shit. Then add a touch of Blackwater and you know why all 5 of the US Intel Agencies states we are creating more terrorist...


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Posted on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 14:33

Justy I'd appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth. I did not say Dems. I said Congress. And it wasn't about occupation to end, it was whether a Presidential order was illegal. But since you want to blame the Republicans for Iraq and the public not demanding accountability, let's just look at something from the other side that you may have missed, shall we, and see where Democratic accountability is. For anyone who hasn't heard the full story, Rush Limbaugh is still being lambasted by Democrats in Congress, about an issue for which THEY should be ashamed. Rush made a comment about "phony soldiers"; and the entire left-wing of America quickly jumped on it and screamed in unison "how dare you say that about soldiers who speak up against the war"!!!! Well for the record, in context he was speaking about the likes of Jesse MacBeth, a man who did an interview pretending to be an Army Ranger who committed atrocities in Iraq, murdering innocent people. A lot of vets noticed that his uniform was WAY out of line (beret to the wrong side, wrong color t-shirt, no sewn-on rank, etc). Not only was he never in Iraq; he never finished boot camp. Sen. Tom Harkin, one of many who attacked Rush's comments without knowing what Limbaugh actually said in context. Here's the biggest problem: MILLIONS of Arabs have seen this YouTube video, and virtually all of them now believe that this man was telling the truth (as if Abu Graib wasn't enough of a nightmare). It's not just about public relations; this stuff is great propaganda material for terrorists. The Dems are more interested in turning Limbaugh into a scapegoat for their political gain, than to tell the WORLD that Jesse Macbeth lied about the whole thing. Some links on YouTube still give no indication that this was a fraudulent video. MacBeth got 5 months in jail, and not one Dem has apologized. It's called politics, Justy. There's enough to spread around on both sides.


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Posted on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 06:06

Re: justyforya write: Re: Junie2006 write: HMMM!!! and then blah blah blah.... Frankly, Junie I'm getting tired of all the bs around here and feel no need to reply to everyone. Other people asked me why I blog on this site when it is apparent that the majority of people here are too stupid to see the truth, or don't give a shit about anyone but them own ass. I just about reached the conclusion that all the people that want to hear the truth heard it, and the rest are beyond any hope.

keep going. We are pulling our troops out and turning over the regions to the Iraqi forces. So don't want anymore sabre rattling with iran or anyone else. if so you r on your own. Bloody mess. But keep rattling. Wish you were better at winning arguements without attacking people or being hypocritical and intellectually restricted in your responses. Good luck in the next election. Although the appeal of intelligence over personal selfish gain has never been a vote catcher. And arrogance and offence will always lose you that vote too. You never do understand love, intelligence and common kindness. If you are tired of blogs you are tired of people and any politics which is tired of people is not real politics. There I am still cleverer than you. (sticks tongue out) "Cant catch me for a penny cup of tea" love and kindness always but not as you know it. junie


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Posted on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 10:46

Re: Junie2006 write: HMMM!!! and then blah blah blah....

Frankly, Junie I'm getting tired of all the bs around here and feel no need to reply to everyone. Other people asked me why I blog on this site when it is apparent that the majority of people here are too stupid to see the truth, or don't give a shit about anyone but them own ass. I just about reached the conclusion that all the people that want to hear the truth heard it, and the rest are beyond any hope.


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Posted on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 06:18

Re: justyforya write: Re: symbiotic blah blah blah Funny, but I thought this blog was about the Webb Amdt. No. 2909: which specifies minimum periods between deployment of units and members of the Armed Forces deployed for Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom; which the GOP FAILED to support. I imagine wonderful Americans like Sym don't give a shit about endless repetitive deployments.

HMMM!!! I seem to remember writing a supportive comment about how the periods of duty were set up to support the known timing for PTSD to set in. Instead of a complimentary supportive comment back you went into some WARP FACTOR 6 diatribe about me and dd being right wing christians and being very abusive and prejudiced. If you kn ew of the lifelong struggles I have had with religious ignorance and the fundies you would not have jumped on me such prejudices. You are an opportunist who is willing to use and manipulate prejudices and stereotypes asgainst those who disagree with you. POT - KETTLE - BLACK I THINK.


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Posted on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 00:49

Re: symbiotic blah blah blah

Funny, but I thought this blog was about the Webb Amdt. No. 2909: which specifies minimum periods between deployment of units and members of the Armed Forces deployed for Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom; which the GOP FAILED to support. I imagine wonderful Americans like Sym don't give a shit about endless repetitive deployments.


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Posted on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 00:35

Re: RK20032000 write: Who ever gets elected you better be concerned of who is sitting at his/her table. What special interest groups will they bend over for.

I agree with everything you stated. To summarize my biggest gripe, AMERICANS are not demanding accountibility. They are just going along with it because 'it does not involved them'.


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Posted on Tue, Sep 25, 2007 07:44

So, invading Iraq is your idea of justice? Iraq had nothing to due with 911. Bush knew that at time of his invasion. Your logic is like - my neighbor's son robbed my house so I will go rape my neighbor's daughter. Read and comprehend what i said previously. Accountability is a fine thing especially when we send our boys over there to die. But when the horse gets out of the barn, The first thing you do is find the horse and get it back in the barn. You can find out who is accountable later. If I was the decesion maker I would have listened to the international commuity a bit more. I think in many cases government sucks but it sucks because there are too many out for there own self, proffessional polititions in government. I get more concerned about who is advising the President than the President himself. Who ever gets elected you better be concerned of who is sitting at his/her table. What special interest groups will they bend over for. After 9/11 the American people some good folks and some bad folks (welcome to humanity) wanted a payback. They wanted an eye for an eye. Their thoughts were how dare some group kill Americans on american soil. They wanted action and quickly. It gave the Governement an opportunity to find some country that needed fixing in THEIR opinion. Is it about oil right now....I think so but they are screwing that up too. Governement is a business in the Us. It is a poorly run business otherwise we wouldn't have the deficit that we have. I run my own business and it is profitable but certainly don't have a solution for our Government. I can appreciate your passion but if you truly want to inform we poor ignorant bikers you have to win our hearts and minds. We have to want to listen to what you say. Unfortunately you kind of went the other way didn't you?


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Posted on Tue, Sep 25, 2007 04:24

See Justy that is another problem.Your passion on the subject doesn't allow you to understand some of the replies you get. Therefore your sarcasm is as clear as mine. I separated my comments into these things called sentences. By the sentence structure and the separation of the comments they become statements. My statement was after 9/11 we needed to kick ass. The American public wanted payback. Not me personally and only but the voters. I didn't say we should have invaded Iraq. We were mislead on WMD's. In an earlier comment you indicated they didn't find anything. There could be a 10,000 pound tootsie pop buried in the desert and we might not know. My comment on Bush was in reply to your calling your audience Bush followers.


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Posted on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 23:37

Hey Traitor Inmate, Look familiar?

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Posted on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 23:15

Re:FLUSH :) justyforya write: Re: WindJunkie write: Blah Blah Blah....
Are you still replying on my blog DD? I thought you said [in another entry] you had enough and would stop replying? So, what year will that be? Well, welcome back Mr. Christian... Hey, I got an question for you and it's right up your religious alley. I asked Heresashit cause he stated he also knew all about religion and stuff like that, but he didn't wish to get back with me with an answer to the question. Perhaps you might help me since you are so all-knowing about Christianity: In part two of the series - Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series which aired on BBC, Abu Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003. You can google, "Peace Israel Arabs BBC Jewwatch" and watch it. Nabil Shaath stated, "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq ?" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'" Abu Mazen was at the same meeting and recounts how President Bush told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state." Now, if God told Bush to do that, why has the invasion and occupation of Iraq caused so much death and misery. OK, so what is your theological assessment? I'm looking forward in hearing your expert opinion...



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Posted on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 19:50

Re: You are such a chicken shit. You deleted my comment back to you yesterday. What's the matter? Did I hit a nerve? Or,maybe,just maybe I was correct in my reply to and about the likes of you. justyforya write: Re: symbiotic write: Hey Traitor...
Congratulation, you calling me traitor should score you a date or two from this crowd. Note, TTT I made sure I used the correct word this time. I got the info for this entry from CSPAN. You heard of CSPAN haven't you? Hey, here is a clue JUST-FOR-YOU: I'm not shoving or forcing anyone to read my blog. You or any other person can read and leave any comment you wish. The comments you'll leave only show/prove how clueless you really are. Now the subject of this entry was the people who are suppose to be looking out for the interests of the Military and legislating the will of the majority of AMERICANS. It appears they, THE CURRENT GOP MAJORITY IN THE SENATE, and you don't seem to understand that continuous non-stop deployment is bad for the troop morale. I guess in your supreme wisdom you do not believe that. I'm also curious where or from what sources are you acquire your opinions? Hopefully it's not druggie-limp-dick Rush. Have a wonderful day. :)



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Posted on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 13:43

OK, Finally a dialog from you without the your calling. Frankly, I really don't care who voted Bush in. What I'm preaching about is ACCOUNTIBILITY. You stated, "I think after 9/11 we needed to kick some ass". So, invading Iraq is your idea of justice? Iraq had nothing to due with 911. Bush knew that at time of his invasion. Your logic is like - my neighbor's son robbed my house so I will go rape my neighbor's daughter. Again as I stated time and time again UN inspectors were in Iraq before Bush invasion. Bush ordered them out. There was no logical reason to invade Iraq, except OIL. Bush stated to Saddam that the only way the US would not invade Iraq is if Saddam left Iraq. I would love to hear your rational for the invasion, but before you reply you really need to think about your answer and think about all the lame-ass excuses people utilized to justify the invasion/occupation which, by the way I've already proven incorrect and dismissed on this blog.


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Posted on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 07:06

Re: Watch it DD he will take that some men you can't reach comment and try to turn it around that you want to get busy with him. LOL. Your right though he may seem to have an education but he needs to temper it with common sense. WindJunkie write: Re:Well said Rk My Friend...you and i both know his shit would only fly for about a minute in a parkin lot or out back of some where..Like they say there's some men you just cant reach :( RK20032000 write: Hey DD my friend, we can resort to name calling with this loser but it would be the equivalent of beating a dead horse. He just doesn't get it. We can debate brain pans with him all day but it won't change anything. He believes what he wants to believe and has no compromise or understanding of the gray area. If you can't think outside of the box you should be pitied. frankly I have no interest in his regurgitation of the media, my point with him has always been the venue in which he is trying to regurgitated and his tactics. For those transgressions only a severe ass beating will have an affect. Unfortunately his cowardice will prevent this from happening.



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Posted on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 06:36

That's the incredible bit of information you haven't seen from me Justy. I never agreed or disagreed with you posting of media from other sources. Only your method of delivery and derogatory comments to the others on a site not intended for political discourse. In a nut shell who you vote for is a private matter but I will share some of my opinions of the war subject: First I did not vote for Bush. I do not support the death of fellow Americans if there is another alternative. I think after 9/11 we needed to kick some ass but don't like the progress to date. Lastly and most important I 100% support the troops who are dying in a conflict that isn't well run. But they are doing their duty. They are not policy makers but implementers. I do get first hand info from my son-in-law and from a close friend who was a civillan contractor in Iraq. I have enough common sense to know that even my son-in-law communicates from his views and there are 3 sides to every story. In regard to my opinion of you I have made that clear and you lost me when you were verbally abusive to some of the women on BK. I believe that there are circumstances when some women deserve to be called out but not the ones that you called out and not in the method in which you did it. And yes I have the capabiliity for agression when someone calls me out and I am good at it!


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Posted on Sun, Sep 23, 2007 23:55

Re: WindJunkie write: Blah Blah Blah....

Are you still replying on my blog DD? I thought you said [in another entry] you had enough and would stop replying? So, what year will that be? Well, welcome back Mr. Christian... Hey, I got an question for you and it's right up your religious alley. I asked Heresashit cause he stated he also knew all about religion and stuff like that, but he didn't wish to get back with me with an answer to the question. Perhaps you might help me since you are so all-knowing about Christianity: In part two of the series - Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series which aired on BBC, Abu Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003. You can google, "Peace Israel Arabs BBC Jewwatch" and watch it. Nabil Shaath stated, "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq ?" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'" Abu Mazen was at the same meeting and recounts how President Bush told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state." Now, if God told Bush to do that, why has the invasion and occupation of Iraq caused so much death and misery. OK, so what is your theological assessment? I'm looking forward in hearing your expert opinion...


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Posted on Sun, Sep 23, 2007 18:44

RK20032000 write: "we can resort to name calling with this loser but it would be the equivalent of beating a dead horse." - Amazing RK, name calling is all I've seen from you. "He just doesn't get it. We can debate brain pans with him all day but it won't change anything." - Again amazing, you have not debated anything. You just name called. "He believes what he wants to believe and has no compromise or understanding of the gray area." - Seems like that is the description of you. "frankly I have no interest in his regurgitation of the media" - More like, frankly you have no interest in learning the truth and you prefer to remain ignorant and miss-led. "my point with him has always been the venue in which he is trying to regurgitated and his tactics." - As I stated over and over again, if you don't like the blog, don't read it. You no doubt a have a controlling personality and it is beyond your ability to understand the purpose of a blog. Blogs are the thoughts of the blogger. I've live over 50 years without kissing-ass, and I don't plan on starting now base on the opinions of people like you. "For those transgressions only a severe ass beating will have an affect. Unfortunately his cowardice will prevent this from happening." - Yep, case-in-point: if people don't see it 'YOUR WAY' you fall back on violence and bloodshed. You are a splendid example of the type of person that supports Bush's illegal invasion and occupation. Thank you for providing an excellent justification of why we have laws and prisons. So, how much time have you spent in the big house due to wife or girlfriend beating?


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Posted on Sun, Sep 23, 2007 17:45

Re:Well said Rk My Friend...you and i both know his shit would only fly for about a minute in a parkin lot or out back of some where..Like they say there's some men you just cant reach :( RK20032000 write: Hey DD my friend, we can resort to name calling with this loser but it would be the equivalent of beating a dead horse. He just doesn't get it. We can debate brain pans with him all day but it won't change anything. He believes what he wants to believe and has no compromise or understanding of the gray area. If you can't think outside of the box you should be pitied. frankly I have no interest in his regurgitation of the media, my point with him has always been the venue in which he is trying to regurgitated and his tactics. For those transgressions only a severe ass beating will have an affect. Unfortunately his cowardice will prevent this from happening.



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Posted on Sun, Sep 23, 2007 16:00

Hey DD my friend, we can resort to name calling with this loser but it would be the equivalent of beating a dead horse. He just doesn't get it. We can debate brain pans with him all day but it won't change anything. He believes what he wants to believe and has no compromise or understanding of the gray area. If you can't think outside of the box you should be pitied. frankly I have no interest in his regurgitation of the media, my point with him has always been the venue in which he is trying to regurgitated and his tactics. For those transgressions only a severe ass beating will have an affect. Unfortunately his cowardice will prevent this from happening.


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