Quoting longbeard52:

since we are discussing the "Certified" biker thing, I would like a show of hands, (not fingers,,,,) who has done their own top end work, valves, cams, all of that stuff.

since we are discussing the "Certified" biker thing, I would like a show of hands, (not fingers,,,,) who has done their own top end work, valves, cams, all of that stuff.

Quoting oldharleylover:

LOL sitting here thinking about some of my 'mistakes'...
most often on the side of the road has been my 'own fault'!
but then again...it's a learning process!

LOL sitting here thinking about some of my 'mistakes'...
most often on the side of the road has been my 'own fault'!
but then again...it's a learning process!

Quoting Heretic:

Being as how I used be a machinist, it is safe to say I have had grease on my hands at least once

Being as how I used be a machinist, it is safe to say I have had grease on my hands at least once

Quoting longbeard52:

Quote from TTT : "Ok, I promise I won't say, would you define 'top end'. Hushing up now."

I think most men, biker or not can do that kind of "top end check, But I must caution, Only a skilled professional should attempt anykind of top end modifications.There could be alignment issues, displacement imbalances,aerodynamic stability problems that could affect future preformance potential.Now, dont get me started about proper "cylinder, to piston" fits.This subject however, does not cover the benefits of proper injector function.If these problems are experienced, the are additives available to "boost" performance "shortcomings" Does that help dear T?

Quote from TTT : "Ok, I promise I won't say, would you define 'top end'. Hushing up now."

I think most men, biker or not can do that kind of "top end check, But I must caution, Only a skilled professional should attempt anykind of top end modifications.There could be alignment issues, displacement imbalances,aerodynamic stability problems that could affect future preformance potential.Now, dont get me started about proper "cylinder, to piston" fits.This subject however, does not cover the benefits of proper injector function.If these problems are experienced, the are additives available to "boost" performance "shortcomings" Does that help dear T?

Quoting fromthefarm:

As far as on the bike. I have done an old one when I raced motocross in the 70's. Now just the routine service. Cars are another story, built several late model stock cars from the ground up. 900+ hp out of a small block chev.
Oh Treasure, I won't rebuild your top end but, I would check it out for you. LOL

As far as on the bike. I have done an old one when I raced motocross in the 70's. Now just the routine service. Cars are another story, built several late model stock cars from the ground up. 900+ hp out of a small block chev.
Oh Treasure, I won't rebuild your top end but, I would check it out for you. LOL

Quoting TreasureTheHobo:

Re: Ok, I promise I won't say, would you define 'top end'. Hushing up now. longbeard52 write: since we are discussing the "Certified" biker thing, I would like a show of hands, (not fingers,,,,) who has done their own top end work, valves, cams, all of that stuff.

Quoting longbeard52:

Well, then using my magic torque wrench, I dub you all "juste bikers, and true." And Mr. Pan, just riding a panhead is cause enough.
There are loads of riders out there, who have only paid their way with cash. not the sweat, and knuckle blood of building and wrenching for yourself. They are not Bikers. (maybe someday if they figure it out) Bikers are usually members of the "middle of nowhere,Middle of the night club" stranded by a breakdown flashlight in teeth, patching wiring, or mending something enough to get home on. I had to ride the last 30 miles on one cyl,a long time ago,,. I leave the fancy stuff to the shops, and the rest of it is for me to do. So far, my old shovel is still holding up.

Well, then using my magic torque wrench, I dub you all "juste bikers, and true." And Mr. Pan, just riding a panhead is cause enough.
There are loads of riders out there, who have only paid their way with cash. not the sweat, and knuckle blood of building and wrenching for yourself. They are not Bikers. (maybe someday if they figure it out) Bikers are usually members of the "middle of nowhere,Middle of the night club" stranded by a breakdown flashlight in teeth, patching wiring, or mending something enough to get home on. I had to ride the last 30 miles on one cyl,a long time ago,,. I leave the fancy stuff to the shops, and the rest of it is for me to do. So far, my old shovel is still holding up.

Quoting UncleKnuckle:

Done just about everything on my bikes.Like Panrider I don't have the equipment to bore cylinders and I don't trust my welding. I can get two pieces to stick but I send it out if it's major like frames etc.

Done just about everything on my bikes.Like Panrider I don't have the equipment to bore cylinders and I don't trust my welding. I can get two pieces to stick but I send it out if it's major like frames etc.

Quoting privateer01:

I built my bikes.

Every bit but boring the cylinders.

I too lack the required equipment to do it right.

I'm a bit of a sadist myself...I counted up the Carb's on the bikes.

Came up with 36.

I built my bikes.

Every bit but boring the cylinders.

I too lack the required equipment to do it right.

I'm a bit of a sadist myself...I counted up the Carb's on the bikes.

Came up with 36.

Quoting 61PanRider:

By the way, I don't have an MC endorsement on my license (several moves across state lines - story too lengthy to bore you with here) so it appears I lack the requisite "biker qualification".

By the way, I don't have an MC endorsement on my license (several moves across state lines - story too lengthy to bore you with here) so it appears I lack the requisite "biker qualification".

Quoting 61PanRider:

Here.

Tranny's and bottom ends as well. In the early days I used a ruler, vise and brass mallet to "true" the flywheels. A bit more sophisticated these days with a truing stand. Comfortable running a hone down the cylinders and lapping valve seats as well once I've replaced the guides. Draw the line at boring cylinders - lack sufficient equipment but I will "mic" your work to ensure it's to the spec's I requested (2,000's front cylinder 3'000's rear).

Here.

Tranny's and bottom ends as well. In the early days I used a ruler, vise and brass mallet to "true" the flywheels. A bit more sophisticated these days with a truing stand. Comfortable running a hone down the cylinders and lapping valve seats as well once I've replaced the guides. Draw the line at boring cylinders - lack sufficient equipment but I will "mic" your work to ensure it's to the spec's I requested (2,000's front cylinder 3'000's rear).