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Posted on Tue, Sep 04, 2007 06:56

Ok people , can someone answer a few questions i have about things , (1) why is it wrong to do self mutalation (as in cut yourself ), its not hurting anyone else , (2) If i want to be buried with no coffin ,just a soft blanket and my favorite clothes on a mountain , no burial service , no singing ,no prayers or tears, just plant me in a nice deep hole, soil on top and let me be , whats wrong with that?, lots of love leah


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Posted on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 07:29

Thank you all for your comments and advice , i guess we are lucky in wales, no bears to dig me up lol,the other question i would rather not talk about , just a big thanks to you all, love leah


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Posted on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:34

I have to be cremated..the thought of spending eternity in a little box gives me the heebie jeebies..im very claustrophobic


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Posted on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 10:40

Just cremate me and throw a big party my kids all know this or I WILL come back and haunt them don't want no one looking at me when I'm dead and flowers....have any of ya sent me flowers why I'm alive? Then don't send them when I can't enjoy them!


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Posted on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 10:04

Re: I'm with you James. 3 day Irish wake with great story telling and lots of drink for all. Cutting? Must be an American thing. Nver heard the likes of it in Ireland! james77075 write: Re:...hhmm..pine box forme...then a big party for everyone else...;p daniel2016 write: Most places won't bury you without the casket for the simple fact that they don't want you being dug up by animals, a.k.a. bears for example. If they catch wind of ya they'll dig till they get to ya, end of story. It would also depend WHAT you died from. If it were a communicable disease I don't think the authorities would go for that either. Sunset answered your cutting question.



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Posted on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 08:37

Re:...hhmm..pine box forme...then a big party for everyone else...;p daniel2016 write: Most places won't bury you without the casket for the simple fact that they don't want you being dug up by animals, a.k.a. bears for example. If they catch wind of ya they'll dig till they get to ya, end of story. It would also depend WHAT you died from. If it were a communicable disease I don't think the authorities would go for that either. Sunset answered your cutting question.



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Posted on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 06:26

Re: LMAO havfun write: gosh leah, i certainly hope the 2 questions arent related nor personal concerns heres hoping you have someone to share that blanket ABOVE GROUND!


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Posted on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 19:32

gosh leah, i certainly hope the 2 questions arent related nor personal concerns heres hoping you have someone to share that blanket ABOVE GROUND!


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Posted on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 16:34

kidshealth.org/teen/your_mind/mental_health/cutting.html (Gives a lotta info about cutting)


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Posted on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 16:19

I was a cutter in my pre-teens. I can personally relate,empathize and sympathize with the subject.I was private with it. My first cutting were on my wrists,thereafter,I went secret,cut in hidden places.I had a cutting kit. I had a ritual when I cut. I did it to feel alive. I did it to punish myself because I always felt like I was bad. I work with chronically psych diagnosed children. Outta the 10 children I am working with,7 are cutters. One child is a unpredictable "open" cutter,who has self mutilated herself on every inch of her entire body,no area has been un-scarred. It is very distressful,hurtful,frustrating,there is a haunting feeling of dismay and helplessness because we all feel that we have failed in preventing the child/children from cutting. Those who care for the children,as well as their loved ones are deeply affected.. Most especially,the children themselves. As for your final resting place,I think your choice of burial is a beautiful thought.


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Posted on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 11:48

You can be buried in a blanket if you get interred at a environmentally friendly burial ground. There is a eco movement for burials.They call them "green burials". I read a very interesting story about these burials in a magazine recently. This site will tell you more and it has some links. http://www.greenburials.org/


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Posted on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 06:57

If the cutting is a body modification, like branding, and scarification, which were both used by tribal societies to indicate tribal standing, and accomplishments, thats pretty common these days, even in non tribal society. These things can be gotten at some places that also offer piercing, and tattoo.you may need to check around. If one is doing this just to harm themselves, thats a whole different motivation, and should be referred to a professional counsellor. I like the thought of burial without all of the usual junk that goes with it these days, Vaults, caskets, pump you full of chemicals, not very natural. The body is of the Earth, and should be returned to it when its no longer needed. I wish it was an option we could choose.


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Posted on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 06:48

i was just talking to a friend of mine about the fact that you have to let the government know where you want to be buried. its not that the government cares, it about record keeping. that way if some time in history, someone wants to know what happened to you, they can look it up. i personally dont have a problem with it. and it has to be in a place that wont effect others in the future as well. As for the self mututalation, it depends on how and why its done. some do it because of mental issues, and the ones that do it for art are always under a watchfull eye because of that. im not sure why anyone would do it, because its not attractive to most people, but its not my life so i sure dont care.


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Posted on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 06:17

Leah....gonna agree with Chop....cutters do hurt other people with that type of behavior...they hurt the people who love them. Cutting is a way for people to blot out other pain in their life that is too difficult to bear....so they replace that pain with another, more manageable pain. As for your burial place....I think it is because of the fear of someone buying that piece of property and then disturbing the burial site....think of an alternative...like scattering your ashes on the wind in a favorite place.


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Posted on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 06:03

Well you do hurt other people close to you when you exhibit behaviour like that. As far as being buried in a blanket in the hills.... nothing wrong with that... if you can find a place that will agree...


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Posted on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 04:49

well 1) Self mutilation may not hurt anyone else directly but indirectly it could. What if the self mutilator went a little too deep? What if the mutilation becomes fatal? Suddenly other people become involved; the ambulance driver, the ER doctors and nurses, the Mortuary folks, and most of all the loved ones. Everything we do affects other people in some way. 2) If everone just wanted to be buried on a mountain with no coffin, can you imagine the mayhem? Remember that most laws are created to protect the most people in most circumstances most of the time. Sure there ARE exceptions but always ask yourself, "What if EVERYONE did this?"


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Posted on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 03:34

Sounds like you are in a Shit place. Self-harm. Of course a private thing and if anyone did their research an expression and way of exorcising deep feelings in both animal world and man's world all the way through history. Why does it affect anyoen else. We are pack animals and we hurt and feel concern when anyone else in the pack hurts. A person's distress brings our own distress to the surface. I have often wondered why when going through grief and bereavement many push the person away instead of coming round and supporting. It is because our own situation and feelings stir up theirs. Hence being pushed away and being told to come back after you have sorted yourself. I have worked with self harmers. Some will always do it. Some will have a brief period when they do it and some will go in and out of needing to use it at various periods of their life. I do not "fight" it I say the person will need to do it until they do not need to do it. I aim at the causes behind the distress and the person. Aim at the ROOT not the Fruit. I just ask that you develop your own safe practice and rictuals and remember other people's right to their own feelings or safety and anxiety levels as well. I do not throw up and vomit all over someone's personal place and space. I also do not have the right to throw up and express the overload of my distress in public. Burial rictuals. hate them becasue I think they are a rip off. You can have decomposing coffins and made of cardboard. I think it is difficult to bury in woodland as may get you ixed up with all the homicide bodies which are also hidden there. Sounds like you may be in a bad place and no one is understanding. Don't take your stuff out on others or dismiss their concern they ahve a right to their feelings as much as you. You are in the West country Basement Project, in Bristol. is a self help project run by users. Has lots of info also buddies up with another user so you have someone who understands....


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