Re: Dutch do you find that you don't get a lot of use out of your bungy cords when they are squirming around. Maybe it's the sun but mine fray real easy after 3 or 4 strap downs. Thought maybe they were defective.
Dutch1951 write: It doesn't matter WHO is in favor of it or not really... you Ladies are the ones in charge of that.. well at least for the most part! Sometimes us guys get our way on the first date (we are ALWAYS in favor of the lovin on the first date, hell before the date starts) thats why I don't have any rear foot pegs... easier to just tie em up and throw em over the saddle....burp!
Re: Dutch do you find that you don't get a lot of use out of your bungy cords when they are squirming around. Maybe it's the sun but mine fray real easy after 3 or 4 strap downs. Thought maybe they were defective.
Dutch1951 write: It doesn't matter WHO is in favor of it or not really... you Ladies are the ones in charge of that.. well at least for the most part! Sometimes us guys get our way on the first date (we are ALWAYS in favor of the lovin on the first date, hell before the date starts) thats why I don't have any rear foot pegs... easier to just tie em up and throw em over the saddle....burp!
As Dutch says, Contrary to popular romantic fiction where the man takes responsibility for the woman's sexuality. It is the woman who has to take charge as to what happens.
As I said a man is happy is she is up for it and happy if she says straight out No. He is not happy when he picks up mixed messages and uncertainty. That is what does his head in.
Red - maybe we should re introduce the idea of "courting" I think it is still an idea which exists in America. We don't really have it over here.
Junie
As Dutch says, Contrary to popular romantic fiction where the man takes responsibility for the woman's sexuality. It is the woman who has to take charge as to what happens.
As I said a man is happy is she is up for it and happy if she says straight out No. He is not happy when he picks up mixed messages and uncertainty. That is what does his head in.
Red - maybe we should re introduce the idea of "courting" I think it is still an idea which exists in America. We don't really have it over here.
don't think you fellas are dogs...please! You're all very lickable...oooops, meant likeable !! (smile)
where has "courting" disappeared to? Wasnt that such a great way to get to know one another...in a romantic sorta way? Don't you think that's what's missing nowadays?
hey we got some smart gals here...yeah!
don't think you fellas are dogs...please! You're all very lickable...oooops, meant likeable !! (smile)
where has "courting" disappeared to? Wasnt that such a great way to get to know one another...in a romantic sorta way? Don't you think that's what's missing nowadays?
I have just seen a lot of very sweet and trusting and loving women turned into trash and their sweet hearts destroyed over night. I am sure you have seen it too. Innocence destroyed.
Wish bstds would keep to bitches and let the sweet innocent trusting ones alone. Once that innocence and trust is gone its gone. and there is a "dead" look in their eye where once there was such life.
Junie
Sportybrat
I have just seen a lot of very sweet and trusting and loving women turned into trash and their sweet hearts destroyed over night. I am sure you have seen it too. Innocence destroyed.
Wish bstds would keep to bitches and let the sweet innocent trusting ones alone. Once that innocence and trust is gone its gone. and there is a "dead" look in their eye where once there was such life.
I think the woman has to take charge and take control of whatever happens and how she wants it.
If you worry too much about what the other person will think or what society will think you are starting from the wrong foot.
i have found men are happy with whatever you say or do as long as you say it straight. If you are confident at jumping into bed with no quams or worries they are fine. if you say straight you will wait to be sure. They are fine. It is when a woman is not so sure herself and is worried about teh consequeunces that her anxieties about sx are picked up by the guy and he doesn't feel confident which foot he is working from.
If a behave like a bitch that doesn't care and kick them out to walk home as I want my bed to myself they are fine. If I start acting unsure and asking for "reassurance" they feel icky and are off.
Girls - If feeling fragile. Don't call Him. Call your Mom or your girlfriends. Then call him when you are confident again. Men don't do fragile.
Personally I would liek to find out if he is a bstd at the beginning and if he has any funny ideas about women, sx or sxuality they will turn up in bed. If he can handle my FULL-ON Vixen and not turn agressive or a hair or become a nun he's OK.
Junie
I think the woman has to take charge and take control of whatever happens and how she wants it.
If you worry too much about what the other person will think or what society will think you are starting from the wrong foot.
i have found men are happy with whatever you say or do as long as you say it straight. If you are confident at jumping into bed with no quams or worries they are fine. if you say straight you will wait to be sure. They are fine. It is when a woman is not so sure herself and is worried about teh consequeunces that her anxieties about sx are picked up by the guy and he doesn't feel confident which foot he is working from.
If a behave like a bitch that doesn't care and kick them out to walk home as I want my bed to myself they are fine. If I start acting unsure and asking for "reassurance" they feel icky and are off.
Girls - If feeling fragile. Don't call Him. Call your Mom or your girlfriends. Then call him when you are confident again. Men don't do fragile.
Personally I would liek to find out if he is a bstd at the beginning and if he has any funny ideas about women, sx or sxuality they will turn up in bed. If he can handle my FULL-ON Vixen and not turn agressive or a hair or become a nun he's OK.
I don't know that there is a set answer. I think it depends on the two people involved in the situation.
What IS sad to me is that it is common practice and perfectly aacceptable in todays society...it has taken the beautiful sharing of two people who care about each other and turned it into the mating of two for relief......sometimes I miss the OLD days and those values.
Guess that makes me an old fogey....I just believe that sex/making love should mean something more than getting your jollies.
Red,
I don't know that there is a set answer. I think it depends on the two people involved in the situation.
What IS sad to me is that it is common practice and perfectly aacceptable in todays society...it has taken the beautiful sharing of two people who care about each other and turned it into the mating of two for relief......sometimes I miss the OLD days and those values.
Guess that makes me an old fogey....I just believe that sex/making love should mean something more than getting your jollies.
I agree w/Junie, I have made them wait before just like momma taught me and they still don't respect you. You just have to find that special one. But on the other hand I have had dates where all I wanted was the same and then never wanted to see them again.
know a lot of men who would do a lot of waiting for a good girl. But it is not love or respect. It is just curiosity and the challenge. But once she is "Done" (Yes that's teh term for that precious moment when you have given your all) She is now a whore like the rest.
I agree w/Junie, I have made them wait before just like momma taught me and they still don't respect you. You just have to find that special one. But on the other hand I have had dates where all I wanted was the same and then never wanted to see them again.
know a lot of men who would do a lot of waiting for a good girl. But it is not love or respect. It is just curiosity and the challenge. But once she is "Done" (Yes that's teh term for that precious moment when you have given your all) She is now a whore like the rest.
I know a lot of men who would do a lot of waiting for a good girl. But it is not love or respect. It is just curiosity and the challenge. But once she is "Done" (Yes that's teh term for that precious moment when you have given your all) She is now a whore like the rest.
Seen many a Christian girl treated like a whore on her wedding night after waiting out for several years for her man.
"Once a girl is "done" it don't matter what you do to her after that"
I like a man who respects every woman and treats a 2 bid crack whore the same he would a lady. Want a man who sees a human being every time not just a piece of skirt, some easy some not easy.
Junie
WindyHeather
I know a lot of men who would do a lot of waiting for a good girl. But it is not love or respect. It is just curiosity and the challenge. But once she is "Done" (Yes that's teh term for that precious moment when you have given your all) She is now a whore like the rest.
Seen many a Christian girl treated like a whore on her wedding night after waiting out for several years for her man.
"Once a girl is "done" it don't matter what you do to her after that"
I like a man who respects every woman and treats a 2 bid crack whore the same he would a lady. Want a man who sees a human being every time not just a piece of skirt, some easy some not easy.
I think it takes a shock collar cause most of us are very strong women. It's funny, cause many of us have given ALL we got to our men, and it still wasn't enough...so tell me what would be the problem then? Really, think we'd all be interested in knowing the answer.
I think it takes a shock collar cause most of us are very strong women. It's funny, cause many of us have given ALL we got to our men, and it still wasn't enough...so tell me what would be the problem then? Really, think we'd all be interested in knowing the answer.
Men are natural born hunters. They want to hunt and conquer. I heard a saying by a little grandma. The difference between good and great is a little waite. It has also been said that men are like micro waves... want it hot and now. Women are like slow cookers...takes time to warm them up but oh how tender and flavorful when done (right)
Men are natural born hunters. They want to hunt and conquer. I heard a saying by a little grandma. The difference between good and great is a little waite.
It has also been said that men are like micro waves... want it hot and now. Women are like slow cookers...takes time to warm them up but oh how tender and flavorful when done (right)
Deb, such a good thought and so true. Have to get to know someone.
OK fellas, we know you need a "place" to veg and get "full" don't we gals. But what if someone told you the banquet halls are closed for the season! Be careful in your words! lol
Deb, such a good thought and so true. Have to get to know someone.
OK fellas, we know you need a "place" to veg and get "full" don't we gals. But what if someone told you the banquet halls are closed for the season! Be careful in your words! lol
I would rather get to know someone first, if there is a physical attraction on the first date it will be there for the second. Then if you both feel the need or desire to explore each other, tear off the clothes and jump in with both feet!
I would rather get to know someone first, if there is a physical attraction on the first date it will be there for the second. Then if you both feel the need or desire to explore each other, tear off the clothes and jump in with both feet!
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