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Posted on Tue, Jun 12, 2007 20:06

After the invasion I enrolled in an Islamic studies class so I may better understand the mind set of the people we were fighting. I'm not stating I'm an expert, but I do know more than the average American about Islam. Saddam government was secular. Women had more rights under Saddam than they now current enjoy. I believe David Shucosky's article dated, April 13, 2006 best states these facts; "Women in Iraq had better quality of life and received more respect for their rights under Saddam Hussein's regime than the current system, according to a survey conducted by the Baghdad-based Woman Freedom Organization [advocacy website]. According to the group, women's rights were guaranteed in the constitution under Saddam, and women held important government positions. Now, however, security concerns have forced many women to remain at home, and the Islamic law making up the foundations of the new constitution [JURIST news archive] has been applied so as to suppress women [advocacy op-ed], the group complains". This article can be found at "jurist law pitt edu". Here is an interesting article I found from IRIN, Integrated Regional Information Networks, which is part of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs. According to its website, IRIN services are editorially independent. BAGHDAD, 30 May 2007 (IRIN) - When Suha Abdel-Azim, 38, received a letter from her boss saying she had to stop working for security reasons, she couldn't believe it. After three years as an engineer for a local company, she was fired without compensation. "I was shocked when they told me I was being fired. I was an excellent worker and had done many fantastic and profitable projects but they didn't want a woman with them any more. They tried to explain, saying it was too dangerous for the company to employ women: the company had received threats", Suha said. "I tried to convince them that I could work from home. I have two children to bring up, and have been alone since my husband was killed by insurgents in 2004 for working for a foreign company, but in vain. They just sent me home", she said. "In about 14 percent of families in Iraq women are the main breadwinners, and often they care for a large number of children. The increase in unemployment among them just means more children without support", said Sarah Muthulak, a spokeswoman for the Baghdad-based Women's Rights Association (WRA). "Discrimination against women today is unprecedented. They are being sacked because of their gender; that is unacceptable", she added. Women say they are being threatened for working outside their homes and in places which are mostly patronised [sic] by men. "Insurgents and militias want us out of the work environment for many reasons: Some because they believe that women were born to stay at home - cooking and cleaning - and others because they say it is against Islam to share the same space with men who are not close relatives", Nuha Salim, spokeswoman for the Baghdad-based NGO, Women's Freedom, said. For other women in Iraq the problem goes beyond unemployment. With spiraling sectarian violence, they are being forced to marry men from their own sect even if they were in love for years with a man from a different sect. "I was in love with a colleague in [sic] my college for more than three years. My family were [sic] going to accept our marriage but last year when my cousin was killed by [Shia] militants, my parents prohibited me from marrying him," said Nur Abdel-Amir, 23, a Baghdad resident. "For two months now I have been in a forced marriage. He is from my own sect but I don't like him and nor does he love me but we don't have a choice. If I refuse I would die and so I will have to live the rest of my life with a man whom I cannot imagine sleeping with", Nur added. [Note, under Shari'a, the current Islamic Law which Iraq is now ruled by, the only duty/ obligation a women has is to render sex with her husband. Talk about women's rights eh?] Nuha from Women's Freedom said the problem is serious and getting worse. What is happening now in Iraq is a far cry from in the days of Saddam Hussein's regime when it was safe to marry across the sectarian divide. Women have also been prohibited by Shia militias from teaching other women. The threat has become real after two teachers - one in the mostly Shia Sadr City district and one in Kadhmiyah neighbourhood - were killed after giving lessons to illiterate women near their homes. In many villages, girls have been taken out of school and forced to stay at home without education. "Girls and women don't need to read. They should be good mothers and housewives. The schools are just imbuing them with new and modern ideas that are inconsistent with Muslim women's duties", said Khalid Hassan, a Mahdi Army officer in Muthana Governorate. "We have threatened all teachers near our villages, telling them to stop teaching, especially teaching women and girls", Hassan said. WRA's Muthulak said many women activists "organizations in Iraq are developing projects to offer free education to women, but most of them have been threatened recently and will probably be forced to stop working for security reasons". Here is another one.. BAGHDAD, 31 May 2007 (IRIN) - Adeela Harith, a 39-year-old widow and mother of three, says she misses the days when her husband was daily bringing them food and when they used to sleep in a safe house in comfort. As a recently-widowed displaced person, she has no support and is now collecting left-overs from rubbish bins to feed her children. Adeela - who is the mother of Ahmed, 14, Zaineb, 12 and Yasser, 8, - said she had tried to get a job as a housekeeper but did not succeed as most families cannot afford maids or do not trust strangers in their homes. Without an education, she was left with no choice but to look for food in rubbish bins. "I have to scrounge around rubbish bins to feed my children. They no longer attend school. The oldest two are street beggars and the youngest, Youssef, is with me looking for food in rubbish bins". You can Google "women right under saddam" and see article after article stating these facts. Now, I'm not stating that Saddam was not evil, he was; but Iraq was a sovereign Nation and it was up to the Iraqi people to remove Saddam from power. Remember the original lies stating why we invaded Iraq? Hell, 50 percent of Americans still believe Saddam was responsible for 911. We destroy Iraq's power grid, water supply, and sewer system. 10% of Iraqis fled their country. The last estimate states 1 million Iraqis have been killed since our illegal invasion. So why aren't more Americans standup up for justice? You asked where my loyalties? lie: 1) Truth 2) Justice 3) The US Constitution Note, my brand of Justice applies to all people, not just Americans. I can relate to a mother, or daughter, or son being blown up, and the act labeled as collateral damage. Perhaps if more Americans could personalize these acts, more of these so-call good Christian would give a $@+#.


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Posted on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 18:21

Heretic, Besides pointing out my profile's stated income (which I also pointed out is no-one's f'ing biz), you have not brought up one lie I stated. I imagine that is because you know I have not lied. So why are you supporting war criminal and constitutional terrorist Bush? What is your MO dude?


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Posted on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 18:17

TTT, I believe I replied or answered all of your questions/replies. Perhaps if you read all of my replies you would have seen that.


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Posted on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 18:15

Geez Billy, I thought you said you were not going to view my blog any more. All I see from you is reiche-wing bull shit.. mooooooo


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Posted on Fri, Jun 29, 2007 11:12

Re:Your very welcome but no thanks needed T, your thanks are very appreciated. Bill TreasureTreasT write: Re: Gosh Billy, Thank you very much. I am very appreciative of your kind words. I am at loss here. I can only say thank you again. T Bill3454 write: T, You are a very intelligent woman. I see your intelligence in your writings on the blogs. You take the time to think out your thoughts before answering people. You do it in a way as not to put anyone down,or to hurt them with your words. Your not vindictive but you don't take any crap either. You not only have intelligence. You have compassion and empathy and integrity,three very honorable qualities in a person. You are and always will be a bright shining star here on these blogs. Keep shining brightly and keep saying whats on your mind.



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Posted on Wed, Jun 27, 2007 23:02

Re: Gosh Billy, Thank you very much. I am very appreciative of your kind words. I am at loss here. I can only say thank you again. T Bill3454 write: T, You are a very intelligent woman. I see your intelligence in your writings on the blogs. You take the time to think out your thoughts before answering people. You do it in a way as not to put anyone down,or to hurt them with your words. Your not vindictive but you don't take any crap either. You not only have intelligence. You have compassion and empathy and integrity,three very honorable qualities in a person. You are and always will be a bright shining star here on these blogs. Keep shining brightly and keep saying whats on your mind.



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Posted on Wed, Jun 27, 2007 14:27

T, You are a very intelligent woman. I see your intelligence in your writings on the blogs. You take the time to think out your thoughts before answering people. You do it in a way as not to put anyone down,or to hurt them with your words. Your not vindictive but you don't take any crap either. You not only have intelligence. You have compassion and empathy and integrity,three very honorable qualities in a person. You are and always will be a bright shining star here on these blogs. Keep shining brightly and keep saying whats on your mind.


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Posted on Wed, Jun 27, 2007 01:04

Re: Bill, Dr. Younis did an amazingly simple yet powerful thing when he walked into that village however many years ago it was. And yes, I agree with you on how to communicate with people. I don't think it could have been said any better. I have been trying to make that point on here for awhile and not only to Justy. I hope your eloquent statement gets recognized. To be fair, Justy has never called me names or yelled at me. But I suspect that he doesn't think I am bright enough to argue with. I hope I am wrong. On two points. Being bright enough (I am no shining star but I glimmer now and then) and argue with (I would much rather debate). But as Charlie stated on another blog this is still a man's world and to a certain extent it is and maybe Justy will respond to you if not to me. Though I think my question is certainly reasonable. And dang you Billy, I saw the numbers were up on the responses and thought Justy actually replied to me!! Got my hopes up! Bill3454 write: Treasure, Dr Younis has his personal convictions to change the way people think and his belief in himself to make it happen. whereas justy has his beliefs but not the personal convictions to make a difference. He would rather talk the talk then to walk the walk. People who really try to make a difference in peoples lives usually try two ways of doing it. First way is through well thought out intelligent verbal discourse. Where discussion can bring about change using an even tone in their voice without denegration,intimidation or name calling. An intelligent person will not talk down to people when trying to educate them. They know that if they were to humiliate someone through words? They lost any hope of using reason to make their point. Second way is on a soap box yelling and screaming that the sky is falling. They use denigration,intimidation and fear. An ignorant person will use any means they know how to get their point across. They think that shouting,name calling and intimidation while pounding thier hands on a lecturn will force people to listen to their point of view. Dr Younis is intellegent and well thought. Justy is just ignorant.



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Posted on Tue, Jun 26, 2007 11:11

Treasure, Dr Younis has his personal convictions to change the way people think and his belief in himself to make it happen. whereas justy has his beliefs but not the personal convictions to make a difference. He would rather talk the talk then to walk the walk. People who really try to make a difference in peoples lives usually try two ways of doing it. First way is through well thought out intelligent verbal discourse. Where discussion can bring about change using an even tone in their voice without denegration,intimidation or name calling. An intelligent person will not talk down to people when trying to educate them. They know that if they were to humiliate someone through words? They lost any hope of using reason to make their point. Second way is on a soap box yelling and screaming that the sky is falling. They use denigration,intimidation and fear. An ignorant person will use any means they know how to get their point across. They think that shouting,name calling and intimidation while pounding thier hands on a lecturn will force people to listen to their point of view. Dr Younis is intellegent and well thought. Justy is just ignorant.


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Posted on Tue, Jun 26, 2007 09:47

Re:once again you avoid my points, and go back to the mudslinging....Seems that is a hibit of yours....still can't stay on a topic that you cannot win can you? And YES. you did have your personal worth on your profile (10 to 50m was exactly what you had listed in fact), and we did make a joke of it on here . You simply got caught up in your own BS, and now want to bluff your way out of it.....To put it bluntly YOU ARE A LIAR, AND YOU GOT CAUGHT AT IT. justyforya write: Heretic, What I make is no ones f-ing business, and if you believe what I indicated my financial worth is in my profile... well you are even more disillusion than I imagined. Now why don't you explain why you think it's OK for Bush to ignore the constitution? Over 1000 signing statement proves that point. And why don't you explain it's OK for Cheney to loot the US treasury with this administration's no bid contracts to KBR and Halliburton? Cheney in 2005, reported 100 million dollars in capital gains from Halliburton. Why don't you explain why it's ok for Gonzales to lie to Congress? Why don't you explain how you support Bush after lying America into an illegal invasion and now an unending occupation? Perhaps Daddy Bush's role in the Carlyle Group and the profits his family is reaping is a good start for your explanation. I bet you don't address one of these issues.



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Posted on Tue, Jun 26, 2007 08:19

Re: Pffffffffftt, Justy, you do me an injustyice. Now stop being so naive and don't assume everyone else is naive and/or ignorant. And now that I finally got ONE answer out of you. Maybe you will answer my other question. With a passion that runs as deep as yours and an empathy that is filled with such comtempt for our government and what you believe has been done to Iraq by our government, why are you not over there in Iraq in a civilian capacity doing whatever you can with your skills and education to lighten the burden, facilitate change, help rebuild. Instead of sitting here being angry? The Nobel Peace Prize winner Dr. Younis started out as one person to see if one person could make a difference. And he changed an entire village in one day with I believe it was $43. So, why do you not go there and do the same with your passion instead of posting here on BK? On a dating site? I am quite curious. justyforya write: TTT I would suggest that you might take that view of people having their "own slants and agendas for various reasons, usually money" when ever you look at anything Bush, Cheney or anyone from that group does.



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Posted on Mon, Jun 25, 2007 12:04

TTT I would suggest that you might take that view of people having their "own slants and agendas for various reasons, usually money" when ever you look at anything Bush, Cheney or anyone from that group does.


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Posted on Mon, Jun 25, 2007 12:01

Heretic, What I make is no ones f-ing business, and if you believe what I indicated my financial worth is in my profile... well you are even more disillusion than I imagined. Now why don't you explain why you think it's OK for Bush to ignore the constitution? Over 1000 signing statement proves that point. And why don't you explain it's OK for Cheney to loot the US treasury with this administration's no bid contracts to KBR and Halliburton? Cheney in 2005, reported 100 million dollars in capital gains from Halliburton. Why don't you explain why it's ok for Gonzales to lie to Congress? Why don't you explain how you support Bush after lying America into an illegal invasion and now an unending occupation? Perhaps Daddy Bush's role in the Carlyle Group and the profits his family is reaping is a good start for your explanation. I bet you don't address one of these issues.


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Posted on Sat, Jun 23, 2007 20:22

Re:I told ya Justy, small portions at a time for me. I imagine I didn't get anywhere close to 14. Well THANK YOU. Sheesh, like pulling teeth. It was sheer curiosity. And, you know very well schools and professors have their own slants and agendas for various reasons, usually money. But really I was merely curious. justyforya write: TTT I replied to your question at the end of entry #14... Perhaps you tuned-out before you got there. California State University at Sacramento HRS145 Introduction to Islamic Cultures Professor - Dr Erin Stilies Grade received - B+ And that is important because?



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Posted on Sat, Jun 23, 2007 20:10

Re:Now go reread what I said about your ever so revered liberals, and how the vast majority of wellfare recipiants vote for them, and why.....Since you want to champion the liberal side of this exlain your way out of that. Now there is another side to what you said. If you were to ask if I thought that those running our country should be those who can manage their personal finances, and the finances of successful businesses, the answer would be YES. I am also going to point out something that should be painfully obvious to you. IF (and trust me IF is the operative word here)you really do have the personal worth that you have listed on your profile, YOU have been stepping on others, as you claim I do. You do not amass even a comfortable nest egg without stepping on toes. because money is a limited comodity , there is always someone losing it if you are gaining it. It seems you have either proven yourself a hypocrit or a liar. I doubt you will admit to either, but everyone who reads this will know it justyforya write: Re: Heretic write: Re:I AM A BUSH SUPPORTER AND A STAUNCH REPUBLICAN....WHAT ABOUT ME JUSTY???? You tuck tail and hide every time I make a point, then change to a different topic....You have yet to develop the intestinal fortitude to debate even one point with me. Why is that Justy???? What point, that Hillary Clinton is a whore to big money? You will not get much of a debate from me on that issue. That Hillary changes which ever way the wind blows? No debating that one either. That Hillary is one of the last Dems I would trust? Yep. You see liberals can independently research, form an opinion, back up their opinion(s) with facts, and admit to the truth. That is the major difference between you and me. I look for the truth and stand by it. You Heretic [I'm sorry to say] are just a Bush and GOP apologist. I'm also sorry to said that the remaining GOPs are GOP first and Americans only when they can turn a buck. I read last week that another big-time GOP has jumped the party's ship.



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Posted on Sat, Jun 23, 2007 12:21

Re: Heretic write: Re:I AM A BUSH SUPPORTER AND A STAUNCH REPUBLICAN....WHAT ABOUT ME JUSTY???? You tuck tail and hide every time I make a point, then change to a different topic....You have yet to develop the intestinal fortitude to debate even one point with me. Why is that Justy????

What point, that Hillary Clinton is a whore to big money? You will not get much of a debate from me on that issue. That Hillary changes which ever way the wind blows? No debating that one either. That Hillary is one of the last Dems I would trust? Yep. You see liberals can independently research, form an opinion, back up their opinion(s) with facts, and admit to the truth. That is the major difference between you and me. I look for the truth and stand by it. You Heretic [I'm sorry to say] are just a Bush and GOP apologist. I'm also sorry to said that the remaining GOPs are GOP first and Americans only when they can turn a buck. I read last week that another big-time GOP has jumped the party's ship.


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Posted on Sat, Jun 23, 2007 12:02

TTT I replied to your question at the end of entry #14... Perhaps you tuned-out before you got there. California State University at Sacramento HRS145 Introduction to Islamic Cultures Professor - Dr Erin Stilies Grade received - B+ And that is important because?


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Posted on Fri, Jun 22, 2007 13:17

The only 100 percent truths you can count on in anything are the ones that you witnessed.


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Posted on Fri, Jun 22, 2007 10:07

Re:I am only about 140 miles from him, and will be remodding casino in his home town this summer (I am down there about once a month, because my best friend lives there). I already offered to meet him...He would not answer me....I just figured he was another liar who did not want to be seen for who he really was TreasureTreasT write: Heretic, We all live in Cali. I say we meet at Justy's for a rousing debate. I'll keep score.



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Posted on Fri, Jun 22, 2007 09:35

Heretic, We all live in Cali. I say we meet at Justy's for a rousing debate. I'll keep score.


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