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Posted on Tue, Jun 03, 2008 12:10

THE BLUE GANG BY: Dave Gibson NATIONWIDE - ~Americans Are Living (And Dying) In A Militarized Police State~ Today, police departments across the United States more closely resemble an occupying army than they do public servants responding to calls for help. Police officers can now be seen wearing helmets and body armor and carrying AR-15's, just to deliver simple warrants. The militarization of our police departments not only gives the appearance of a military dictatorship but places the public at great risk. No less than 70 percent of U.S. cities now have SWAT teams. In cities with a population of 50,000 or more, 90 percent have SWAT teams. Eastern Kentucky University professor Peter Kraska told the Washington Post that SWAT teams are currently sent out 40,000 times a year in the U.S. During the 1980's, SWAT teams were only used 3,000 times a year. Most of the time, SWAT teams are being sent out to simply serve warrants on non-violent drug offenders. Many municipalities are using Homeland Security grants to even purchase large armored vehicles. The Pittsburgh Police Department now uses their 20-ton armored truck complete with rotating turret and gun ports to deliver many of their warrants. Pittsburgh Police Sgt. Barry Budd recently told the Associate Press: "We live on being prepared for 'what if'." Our police departments now regularly receive free surplus equipment from the U.S. military, which they readily accept. The training being given at many police academies appears to be the type of tactics one would use in Baghdad, rather than Baltimore. It would seem that our police officers are being readied for war, with the American public as the enemy. In the last several years, there has been a transformation from community policing to pre-emptive assaults On January 24, 2006, Dr. Salvatore Culosi was shot and killed outside his house by a Fairfax County SWAT officer. Police used the SWAT team to serve a documents search warrant, after Dr. Culosi came under suspicion for taking sports bets. The investigation began after Fairfax Detective David Baucom solicited a bet with Dr. Culosi at a local sports bar. Dr. Culosi was standing outside his home while talking with Det. Baucom, when SWAT Officer Deval Bullock quickly approached with his gun drawn and fatally shot Dr. Culosi in the chest. Court documents report that Culosi never made any threatening movements and made no attempt to run as he watched the SWAT team move in around him. Dr. Culosi had no history of violence nor any criminal history whatsoever. He operated two successful optometry clinics at Wal-Marts in Manassas and Warrenton, Va. His parents have filed a $12 million lawsuit against the county of Fairfax, Va. On the night of January 17, 2008, a police SWAT team surrounded Ryan Frederick?s home in Chesapeake, Va. The police were there to serve a drug warrant based on a tip from a criminal informant. As usual, 28 year-old Ryan Frederick had gone to sleep early in order to leave the house before dawn for his job with a soda distributor. He awoke to a commotion of screams and the distinct sound of someone breaking down his front door. Frederick?s house had been broken into a few days earlier, being a slight man of only a little over 100 pounds, Frederick feared for his safety. After the break-in, he purchased a gun. Understandably frightened, Frederick grabbed his gun and when he got to the front of his house, he saw a man trying to crawl through the bottom portion of his door. Terrified that the intruders had returned, he fired. The man he shot was not an aggressive burglar, nor a drug-crazed murderer, he was Det. Jarrod Shivers. The police detective and military veteran died almost immediately. Frederick was charged with first-degree murder and now sits in a jail cell awaiting trial. As for the marijuana-growing operation for which police were looking, nothing was found. Only a very small amount of marijuana was discovered on the Frederick property, only enough to charge him with misdemeanor possession. Frederick has admitted that he uses marijuana occasionally but has never been involved with producing nor selling the drug. Ryan Frederick has no prior history of violence, nor any criminal history whatsoever. He took care of his grandmother until her death two years ago, had a full-time job, and recently became engaged. In his spare time, he worked in his yard and tended to his Koi pond?Not quite the drug kingpin type! However, based solely on the word of an informant, police obtained a warrant and stormed into this man?s house in the dark of night. The information turned out to be false, a police officer and father of three is dead, and a decent young man?s life is now over. When Ryan Frederick awoke to the sounds of his home being invaded, he did what many of us would do. He acted reasonably when he grabbed his gun to defend himself and fired at a man who he believed was breaking into his home to do him harm. Had the police simply went to his home during the daytime and knocked on his door, they could have questioned Frederick and found their information to be groundless. A little traditional police work could have saved the life of a police officer and the Shivers and Frederick families would have remained whole. The Ryan Frederick story is truly frightening because this same scenario could play itself out in your home or mine. In the age of militarized police departments, we are all in danger. Here are a few more recent victims of our militarized police departments: Cheryl Lynn Noel, a mom who was shot by police for picking up her legally registered handgun. She went for her gun to defend herself after a SWAT team in the middle of the night, broke into her Baltimore, MD home. Police stormed her house that night because they claim to have found marijuana seeds in the family's trash can. Rev. Acelyne Williams, 75 of Boston, died of a heart attack as a SWAT team broke into his home. Police actually had the wrong address. 92 year old Kathryn Johnston who was so fearful that she never left her home and would only open her door after friends who placed her groceries on the front porch had left, was killed by an Atlanta SWAT team last year. An erroneous tip from an informant was enough for the Atlanta Police Department to invade her home. Police have since admitted to lying to obtain a search warrant and to planting drugs in her home after killing her. In 2006, a 52 member SWAT team stormed into a Denver home in search of a friendly small-stakes poker game. The same thing happened a few months later when SWAT and K-9 units barged in on a charity poker game in Baltimore. When someone straps on body armor and large caliber weapons, their adrenalin levels begin to surge. As they arrive at the scene, those levels increase. When these now militarized police officers actually break into a dark home and begin shouting at terrified citizens, severe injury and death is likely to occur. It is beyond reason to employ these tactics on anyone other than hardened, violent criminals. SWAT teams were created in the wake of the 1966 University of Texas sniper shooting spree by ex-marine Charles Whitman. Police did not have the firepower to reach Whitman, who was perched atop the 27-story clock tower. Civilians with hunting rifles came to the scene and joined with police in the effort to stop Whitman. Eventually, police officers and a well-armed citizen scaled the stairs of the tower and killed Whitman, but not before he killed 17 people and injured another 31. As a result of the incident, police departments began to assemble small teams of highly trained officers with equipment specific to sniper shootings, hostage situations, bank robberies, etc. SWAT teams were designed to deal with very violent individuals who represent a clear and present threat to the public. However, they are now being used to execute warrants on non-violent offenders and even those who have no prior criminal history at all. Turning our neighborhood cops into shock troops will do nothing but erode public confidence in the police and endanger the lives of innocent Americans. Recently, Boston?s new police commissioner William Fitchet announced that the department?s Street Crimes Unit will begin wearing military-style black uniforms, to instill a sense of "fear." At last week?s city council meeting, police Sgt. John Delaney told council members that the black uniforms would send the message that officers were serious. Did someone declare martial law?


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Posted on Thu, Jun 12, 2008 00:11

Yep, Branch Davidian... now there is a lesson about how the ATF, FBI and local law f-ed things over. Well we are all entitled to our options, but before one voices those opinions I would sincerely suggest one do a little research first. Try google 'Wikipedia Branch Davidian' for an excellent account of facts. Here is just a few facts: 1) Initial exchange of gunfire on February 28, 1993 resulted in the deaths of 4 ATF agents and 6 Davidians. 2) Subsequent 51-day siege by the FBI ended on April 19 when fire created by M-60 combat engineering vehicles and tear gas canisters destroyed the compound killing 66 people, including 21 children and 2 pregnant women. 3) Before the initial confrontation undercover an ATF agent had infiltrated the Branch Davidian Compound. 4) Any advantage of a surprise raid on February 28, 1993 was lost as a reporter, who had been tipped off about the raid, asked for directions from a U.S. Postal Service mail carrier [who was Koresh's brother-in-law]. Koresh then confronted the ATF agent [who was inside the Branch Davidian Compound] and told him that he knew a raid was coming. 5) "Despite being informed that the Davidians knew the raid was coming, the ATF commander ordered that the raid go ahead, even though their plan had depended on reaching the compound without the Davidians having been armed." 6) "Houston attorney Dick DeGuerin, who went inside Mount Carmel during the siege [after the February 28 shot out] testified at the trial that protruding metal on the inside of the right-hand entry door made it clear that the bullet holes were made by incoming rounds." It appears to me that the initial exchange on February 28 was started by the ATF agents shooting the door in. So why would the ATF agents be shooting with 21 children inside. Seems like maybe someone should call Texas Child Protection Services [since they are so concerned about children's safety] aka see LDS Cult. 7) "During the siege a number of scholars who study Apocalypticism in religious groups attempted to persuade the FBI that the siege tactics being used by government agents would only create the impression within the Davidians that they were part of a Biblical 'end times' confrontation that had cosmic significance." You can read the rest from Wikipedia [if you want to].


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Posted on Wed, Jun 11, 2008 09:56

hell most of the ex-cops that i have known said good ones are rare. sorry, but after being screwed with for 35 years because of either the length of my hair, the type of car i drive,(or bike) or the type of cloths i wear, gets old after a while. My record is cleaner then most cops, yet they feel the need to screw with me. when is enough, enough? they mess with my son because of his hair now. I guess if we all dressed like the cops think we should, drove the cars they want us to drive, and only cops could ride motorcycles, would you still stick up for them? Screw them all.

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Posted on Sun, Jun 08, 2008 19:18

Quoting: Originally posted by irishpatti And my advice is don't ever date a cop! I speak from experience. I learned the true meaning of what it is like to be OWNED!

I dated a sheriff once. I have to tell myself they are not all controlling, small weenied putz's like he was. WTF was I thinking???? Don't answer that!


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Posted on Sun, Jun 08, 2008 10:59

Quoting: Originally posted by TreasureTheHobo Someone pick me up off the floor. Wait....nevermind, I like the view from here :)

uhh treasure, are you looking up womens dresses again? im beginning to wonder about you...


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Posted on Sun, Jun 08, 2008 10:57

Quoting: Originally posted by medicinemanrn I knew a state trooper that was gunned down at point blank range when he pulled a survivalist over for a taillight that was out. The problem I see is that the cops are facing more and more automatic weapons. Most of these are csarried by felons that the judicial system lets out way too quickly. Maybe if the real criminals stayed locked up longer we wouldnt be having these problems.

theres no doubt that they need to keep up with the times when it comes to weapons, but most traffic stops done warrent an AK. most of the time when you hear of cops shot at traffic stops, its the results of only one cop being there, and bad luck and timing. no different them my chance of getting run over by a car.


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Posted on Sat, Jun 07, 2008 13:34

I knew a state trooper that was gunned down at point blank range when he pulled a survivalist over for a taillight that was out. The problem I see is that the cops are facing more and more automatic weapons. Most of these are csarried by felons that the judicial system lets out way too quickly. Maybe if the real criminals stayed locked up longer we wouldnt be having these problems.


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Posted on Sat, Jun 07, 2008 11:44

Someone pick me up off the floor. Wait....nevermind, I like the view from here :)


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Posted on Sat, Jun 07, 2008 11:29

Demo "any MC thats got a 3 piece patch is on the terrorist list." Your observation is correct, but we have only the GOP congress to blame for that since that law came into effect in the original version of the Patriot act. If people actually followed politics and read what is going on a lot of people would be in the streets protesting and demanding change.


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Posted on Fri, Jun 06, 2008 08:47

Hell justy, i dont believe half of what the news or cops say. hell there saying any MC thats got a 3 piece patch is on the terrorist list... hell the cops ARE the real gangs to fear. oh well thats just one of my many rants..lol


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Posted on Fri, Jun 06, 2008 00:16

Yeah, Demo but it is not over for the members of that cult. Once Child Protective Services (CPS) got involved those families they will now be put through CPS BS. The courts ordered the released those kids, but CPS placed lots of restrictions and conditions on the release orders. I don't really like cults, but I always thought America stood for two things: people are innocent UNTIL proven guilty and anyone is free to believe whatever they want to as long it does no harm to anyone else. Over 300 families were broken up because of the unproven allegations of child abuse. Did you see MSNBC spinning CPS lies about lots of the cults teenage girls being pregnant? Now a few stations were retracting [reporting] that was not true. All of it is totally BS. I also heard that each cult kid had DNA samples taken. So what right does the gov have for that invasion of privacy? Sounds like the gov is going on the premise GUITLY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. People better wake up cuz the same things we did to the so-called terrorist in Guantanamo Bay, we are now doing to American who can not be classified as terrorist [at least I have not heard of a terrorist LDS cult]. Perhaps the Justice Department kept us out of that loop.


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Posted on Thu, Jun 05, 2008 08:36

hell im sure thats a mild pic compared to what the cops actually own. wonder how much it cost to have all the cops they had there, and hell, i never heard that there was ever a shot fired. add to that, legally, the people that were taken from the camp are now being allowed back to what they were taken from. there sure wasting a lot of my money.


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Posted on Wed, Jun 04, 2008 22:05

I imagine this is an example of what your are talking about. AP photo of LDS Polygamist Compound Raid.

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Posted on Wed, Jun 04, 2008 20:54

yah, i hear ya. the sad thing is there are a few that try to be good cops.


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Posted on Wed, Jun 04, 2008 20:15

And my advice is don't ever date a cop! I speak from experience. I learned the true meaning of what it is like to be OWNED!


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Posted on Wed, Jun 04, 2008 18:34

Interesting posting. It will be intriguing to see the replies that will be generated.


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Posted on Wed, Jun 04, 2008 02:41

Police are not the friend of the common citizen over in England. I never liked the word C**T. I now know where to apply it to. the common citizen from young to old is aliented from the police force we pay for and who is supposed to be supporting and protecting us. Will still be a good citizen, just wouldn't cross the street to piss on a policeman if he was on fire in the gutter. and it takes a lot to get me to this point. JunieXXX


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