Quoting Junie2006:

Just seeing all the HooHaa over there about a National Health System. Just want to say that the UK NHS system was one of the best in the World with service to all irrespective of wealth, background or ability to pay. Had hight standards and dedicated nurses and doctors. Delivering basic healthcare and would not be cut off if run out of money and would not be turfing anyone out int he street or pulling the switch because you were too old or in the way.

It has been destroyed because of most good ideas it was taken over by idiots with degrees and polticians and "consultants" who have no idea.

At beginning a Dr could just ring up and refer a patient to a chiropractitioner, back specialist, physio etc etc and get an appointment. Then the bigwigs decided this was too easy and now put several levels inbetween where the doctor has to apply to x admin department, and financial management department, and logistics and a full team with several form inbetween. This makes the care more complicated and more expensive as each layer of admin has to be paid for 80% of NHS money goes to admin.

Also there are PC preferred areas of care and "trendy" areas. Therefore you will get 5-dozen projects for drugs and drink problems in one town all doubling up on what they are doing. Meanwhile the Baby care unit, Emergency Unit and Day Care for Elderly Dementia would be closed down.

Also as we are part of EU and taking in immigrants they are all entitled to NHS care and input even if they have not paid into it. I do not begrudge anyone care but we hae mass migration coming into Britain to take advantage of free care system. A lot are taking the piss out the system. Then the govt turns round and tells those who have paid for it all their lives and indigenous population that they are the ones who will have to lose out.

It was and is a wonderful idea of care and medical intervention for all at point of need. It had hight standards and was known as the best system in the world and British nurses the best and most professional.

The mess is because of managerial and political interference and an army of paid idiot consultants who forget what the NHS is there for - "CARE OF THE PATIENT."

It is not free as you pay for it the same as a private Insurance system. You are just guaranteed you and your families care even if the Insurance Company goes bust and losses all your premiums on the Stock Market. It is not a gamble. It is a contract between Govt and people.

Proud of our NHS and so is everyone else. Just has its problems with idiots and politcians and policy makers. It would be good if it went back to "Care at Point of Need." Don't think we should pay for stupid extras such as Reiki, Homeostasis merchants and color therapists when we need "MORE BLOOD FOR CUBICLE 9" and "AN INTRAVENOUS DRIP FOR PATIENT IN ROOM 5"

Looking pretty ugly and angry over there. Have worked in private and yes my severe Head Injury clients are "cut off" the minute their money runs out, and the private solicitors and professionals will take your house off you, evict your family and put you in a State Care Home without a blink of an eye.
Will also keep you a patient and even keep you ill if it keeps you on its books.

I have sat in a meeting with 6 professioals each on $100s per hour for them to discuss removing $100per week from patients state benefits an it going to them. All these people are being paid their money out of the patient's award. Soon goes. Also plan to remove children from family. Not for concern for children but so they get the money as guardians.

Know which side I am on.

Just thought I'd let you know we are proud of our NHS. Lot of screaming and shouting over there about basic care for all. Wish everyone would be on the streets when it came to child abuse. Also the NHS etc was brought in after the war when the country was struggling. But it was there to stop people slipping back to the dreadful state of health and welbeing and poverty in the depression between the wars. My gramps where in that and many lost their children every year to things that are now nearly extinct.

JunieXXX

Just seeing all the HooHaa over there about a National Health System. Just want to say that the UK NHS system was one of the best in the World with service to all irrespective of wealth, background or ability to pay. Had hight standards and dedicated nurses and doctors. Delivering basic healthcare and would not be cut off if run out of money and would not be turfing anyone out int he street or pulling the switch because you were too old or in the way.

It has been destroyed because of most good ideas it was taken over by idiots with degrees and polticians and "consultants" who have no idea.

At beginning a Dr could just ring up and refer a patient to a chiropractitioner, back specialist, physio etc etc and get an appointment. Then the bigwigs decided this was too easy and now put several levels inbetween where the doctor has to apply to x admin department, and financial management department, and logistics and a full team with several form inbetween. This makes the care more complicated and more expensive as each layer of admin has to be paid for 80% of NHS money goes to admin.

Also there are PC preferred areas of care and "trendy" areas. Therefore you will get 5-dozen projects for drugs and drink problems in one town all doubling up on what they are doing. Meanwhile the Baby care unit, Emergency Unit and Day Care for Elderly Dementia would be closed down.

Also as we are part of EU and taking in immigrants they are all entitled to NHS care and input even if they have not paid into it. I do not begrudge anyone care but we hae mass migration coming into Britain to take advantage of free care system. A lot are taking the piss out the system. Then the govt turns round and tells those who have paid for it all their lives and indigenous population that they are the ones who will have to lose out.

It was and is a wonderful idea of care and medical intervention for all at point of need. It had hight standards and was known as the best system in the world and British nurses the best and most professional.

The mess is because of managerial and political interference and an army of paid idiot consultants who forget what the NHS is there for - "CARE OF THE PATIENT."

It is not free as you pay for it the same as a private Insurance system. You are just guaranteed you and your families care even if the Insurance Company goes bust and losses all your premiums on the Stock Market. It is not a gamble. It is a contract between Govt and people.

Proud of our NHS and so is everyone else. Just has its problems with idiots and politcians and policy makers. It would be good if it went back to "Care at Point of Need." Don't think we should pay for stupid extras such as Reiki, Homeostasis merchants and color therapists when we need "MORE BLOOD FOR CUBICLE 9" and "AN INTRAVENOUS DRIP FOR PATIENT IN ROOM 5"

Looking pretty ugly and angry over there. Have worked in private and yes my severe Head Injury clients are "cut off" the minute their money runs out, and the private solicitors and professionals will take your house off you, evict your family and put you in a State Care Home without a blink of an eye.
Will also keep you a patient and even keep you ill if it keeps you on its books.

I have sat in a meeting with 6 professioals each on $100s per hour for them to discuss removing $100per week from patients state benefits an it going to them. All these people are being paid their money out of the patient's award. Soon goes. Also plan to remove children from family. Not for concern for children but so they get the money as guardians.

Know which side I am on.

Just thought I'd let you know we are proud of our NHS. Lot of screaming and shouting over there about basic care for all. Wish everyone would be on the streets when it came to child abuse. Also the NHS etc was brought in after the war when the country was struggling. But it was there to stop people slipping back to the dreadful state of health and welbeing and poverty in the depression between the wars. My gramps where in that and many lost their children every year to things that are now nearly extinct.

JunieXXX